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Chris S
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 04:28 |
More genius than any of us could ever aspire to be!!!
Rock on Phil.............
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The Whistler
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Joined: August 30 2006
Location: LA, CA
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 03:21 |
Atavachron wrote:
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I can dfend myself, syoo plumber.
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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The Whistler
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Joined: August 30 2006
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 03:20 |
richardh wrote:
^ Tuxon, presumably Banks and Kaye are interchangeable?
The reason I don't like Collins as a person is because he adopted a revisionist view of rock history to make himself look cool in the eighties.I think most people realised he's a complete knob.That said he is a superb musician and certainly was the main reason Genesis continued after Gabriel left. Personally I like the albums Genesis made from Trick up to Duke. After that they obviously stopped being a 'prog band' but I gather it was a collective decison.Banks and Rutherford were as much to blame as Collins.I think we chose to blame Collins for it because he's such a prat. |
Ah, good ole Phil. He's our wee, shiny headed punching bag. Great drummer though; everything on Selling England is superb.
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tuxon
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Joined: September 21 2004
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 02:57 |
Find the similarities between Yes and genesis.
Tony Banks Tony kaye Peter Banks Peter Gabriel Steve Howe Steve hackett
somehow i always refer to banks as kaye, not the first time I assure you
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richardh
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Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 02:50 |
^ Tuxon, presumably Banks and Kaye are interchangeable?
The reason I don't like Collins as a person is because he adopted a revisionist view of rock history to make himself look cool in the eighties.I think most people realised he's a complete knob.That said he is a superb musician and certainly was the main reason Genesis continued after Gabriel left. Personally I like the albums Genesis made from Trick up to Duke. After that they obviously stopped being a 'prog band' but I gather it was a collective decison.Banks and Rutherford were as much to blame as Collins.I think we chose to blame Collins for it because he's such a prat.
Edited by richardh - February 12 2007 at 02:52
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Cheesecakemouse
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Joined: April 05 2006
Location: New Zealand
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Points: 1751
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 02:49 |
clueless oaf, he doesn't mean to be so evil yet destruction follows him in every wake.
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tuxon
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Joined: September 21 2004
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 02:42 |
there are two sides to every story.
Personally i think it was gabriel who wanted to go more commercial and thatīs why he left. At that time with Kaye Banks in charge and a potential more important role for Hackett, Hackett forgot to put his 2 cents in, and he became obsolete, so then there were three.
with Kaye Banks pursuing a more straightforward style, influenced by the New Wave movement that started to flourish and inspired by Gabrielīs commercial succes, Genesis followed in that trail. Phil in the mean time was busy pursuing other interest with Brand X, maintaining a progressive style. In fact he kept his more commercial side for his solo project, but when that sky/rocketed Genesis, with Tony and Mike wanted their piece of the cake, so genesis allowed Phil to become their main writer in order to succeed commercially. hereby forcing Phil to leave the drumkit and focus on his role as front man, the only progressive element in Genesis at that time was Philīs drumming )the rest was cut short by Tony and Mike.
So it isnīt phil thatīs the evil genius, but rather Gabriel, Banks and Rutherford, with Hackett being a victim of the proces and Phil simply remaining true to himself.
so all is wel in paradise.
Edited by tuxon - February 12 2007 at 02:59
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video vertigo
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Joined: September 17 2004
Location: United States
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Points: 1930
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 02:16 |
I choose "good drummer"
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"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa
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Atavachron
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Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
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Points: 65479
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 02:15 |
He drinks
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The Whistler
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Joined: August 30 2006
Location: LA, CA
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Posted: February 12 2007 at 02:11 |
...unless you're reading this tomorrow, in which case, we decide then.
Now, think before you answer the above question. Was Phil a diabolical mastermind whose main purpose in life was to take a decent progressive outfit (excuse me, great progressive outfit), and turn it into a pop machine from the beginning? Did he, in fact, sign up on the "rock drummer sensitive to 12-string guitar" with the long term goal of popular stardom? Did he "never really like Yes 'n Pink Floyd?"
Or, did Phil, in fact, stumble onto it? Did he wake up one day, see where things were sort of going, and go, "Uh, okay. I can live with that, I guess. I don't have to play drums anymore, right?"
Did Phil always want to be a pop star, and realized that Gabriel's band would never hold for long? Or, if Genesis magically became a jazz band tomorrow, would Phil say that he always found pop music boring?
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