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Yukorin
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Posted: December 03 2007 at 07:16 |
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Posted: December 03 2007 at 07:08 |
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chuuzetsu
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 23:14 |
I would have to say that my favorite zeuhl groups are Happy Family, Bondage Fruit, Koenji Hyakkei, Ruins, and of course Magma. But man, you have to give respect to those japanese zeuhl bands, they rip it up.
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paloz
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 08:27 |
My fav zeuhl ever:
Happy Family: Toscco
Dun: Eros
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ack44
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 21:42 |
There's a reference to Christian Vander in the Japanese manga "Jojo's Bizarre Adventure"!!! I nearly sh*t myself.
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Yukorin
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Posted: November 07 2007 at 08:32 |
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Yukorin
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Posted: November 05 2007 at 07:26 |
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listennow801
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Posted: November 05 2007 at 03:10 |
calling all Zeuhl fans: Live Metabolist!:
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Yukorin
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Posted: October 28 2007 at 09:11 |
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ack44
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Posted: October 28 2007 at 03:32 |
なんじゃぁぁぁああ!
reminds me of bonsai kittens...
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Yukorin
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Posted: October 27 2007 at 22:30 |
Yukorin wrote:
Logan wrote:
What are people's favourite Zeuhl and Zeuhlish albums not listed in PA?
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Yog Sothoth 'self-titled'
Teddy Lasry 'Seven Stones'
Rhesus O 'self-titled'
Hiatus 'Avant-Demain'
All essential! |
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Yukorin
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Posted: October 27 2007 at 22:30 |
...these tiny letters are p!ssing me off...
Edited by Yukorin - October 27 2007 at 22:31
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Yukorin
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Posted: October 27 2007 at 22:26 |
Yukorin wrote:
Logan wrote:
(lame anecdote: I once rescued a bagful of kitties abandoned in a park in Japan, then nursed 'em back to health. It was either that or make nekoyaki).
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That's a lovely story. Not sure about 'Nekoyaki' but I'll try anything once. After whale bacon and raw horse it doesn't sound too bad... |
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Yukorin
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Posted: October 27 2007 at 22:26 |
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Edited by Yukorin - October 27 2007 at 22:27
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Logan
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Posted: October 27 2007 at 16:27 |
Yukorin wrote:
Latest boom in Japan: Kittens sleeping in cooking pots
猫なべ。Neko nabe |
The Hello Kitty bang, erm boom, was saucier. What is it with nekophilia anyway? ハローキティ Harō Kiti
(lame anecdote: I once rescued a bagful of kitties abandoned in a park in Japan, then nursed 'em back to health. It was either that or make nekoyaki).
EDIT: Erm, back on topic. What are people's favourite Zeuhl and Zeuhlish albums not listed in PA?
Edited by Logan - October 27 2007 at 17:37
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Logan
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Posted: October 27 2007 at 15:35 |
Yukorin wrote:
Shakespeare wrote:
Maybe I just haven't heard the bad zeuhl yet...(Bad zeuhl? oxymoron?) |
cough cough...Musique Noise...cough...Avoid at all costs |
Although Fulmines Integralis is not good for a Zeuhl album, it's not really that bad of an album. Pretty disposable, though. Kind of dumbed-down Zeuhl, but with good musicianship/ vocals. Not up to Eskaton (or Zao etc.), for sure. I expect that I'd still prefer it to most late 80's releases in the archives. If I hadn't already been very familiar with Zeuhl already, I might have really enjoyed it. Totally non-essential except for diehards, though. I'm a Zeuhl completist. That this is a really bad album for Zeuhl says a lot about how good Zeuhl generally is, I feel. I was looking up some reviews, and this one piqued my curiosity. From progresssiveworld (CLICK)
I am not quite sure what to say or feel about this CD. Musique Noise is very original and Fulmines Integralis
is one of the most different progressive albums I have ever heard.
There are essentials of jazz, rock, classical, opera, and some very
strange French gibberish going on, if you can think of it, they do it,
anything and everything goes with this group. I have to warn all of you
that like to experiment with certain drugs that cause you to
hallucinate, do not listen to this while under that influence; you may
find yourself in a very strange space when you come down. Hell, I do
not even do drugs and I felt weird when this CD ended.
Besides all of the musical avante garde insanity that this band
creates, there are many marvelous musical moments during the course of
this recording, although I found it extremely difficult pulling it all
apart to understand it and when it was over I felt agitated. The last
song "Pzkr!" just pushed me over the edge. Honestly, there is some good
music and this group has some very talented musicians in it, however I
do not think that I will ever listen to this again, it was too bizarre
for me. I loathe opera; if that ingredient was not present, I would be
fine. That one aspect really irritated me. |
Seems obvious that this person is not very familiar with Zeuhl and avant rock, nor would appreciate Zeuhl, to say the least. "Very original," I don't think so. Another one, (from Ork Alarm): CLICK
A review of this 1989 Zeuhl album seems long overdue in Ork Alarm! but the
album may be becoming hard to find now that Musea are discontinuing their vinyl
stocks. But for what it's worth, these are my feelings about an album that I've
had lying around for ages now, but have never been totally satisfied by. MUSIQUE
NOISE are a relatively new line-up from Paris, they are not simply another copy
of MAGMA, rather they are a progression in line with the way Vander's music
was developing in 1979. It's as if they have taken the path that MAGMA might
have followed if Vander had not diverged in 1980 towards the Otis Redding, John
Coltrane and McCoy Tyner homages of the 80's.
'Fulmines
Regularis' opens with 'Pas Encore', which initially seems to be a mock Kobaïenne
vocal driven piece in the style of ESKATON and ALTAIS, with wedges of MAGMA
from the 'Üdü Wüdü' era. The mid section of the piece is based around a slow
sax refrain with ostinato Kobaïan vocals somewhat like parts of 'Mekanïk. The
track concludes with a bass / drum pattern again heavily influenced by Vander
and Paganotti. The second song 'Unique au Monde', is more like ANAID in both
vocal content and its jazzy structure, but this time with similarities to PHILEAS
FOGG and late period ZAO. Finally, just when you think they have exhausted the
plagiarism they round the whole thing off with some WEIDORJE style synth.
For sure, it is not breaking any new ground, musically, but the LP is worth
buying just for the first track. Side one ends with 'Mise au point' which is
undoubtedly Musique Post-Atomique and could easily be mistaken for an outtake
from any ESKATON album, not surprising when you notice that the album was engineered
by ESKATON's pianist, Marc Rozenberg and vocalist, Amara Tahir.
Flipping the record over one gets a feeling of trepidation in case every other
member of the Magma school is about to receive a brief exhumation. Thankfully
however, this side is almost entirely all their own work, with just the occasional
doff of the cap to the ESKATON college of composition. It begins with a Carl
Orff operatic feel over a tense, ever building keyboard backing. Unfortunately
the results are not as intriguing as most of side one. The next track, 'L'étroit
Huit' is much more original and quite a convoluted composition. The general
mood is sombre but the quirky 70's organ sound is disquieting and the female
vocalists begin to grate towards the ending. The bass playing on this one has
an Ourgon-Gorgo flavour of MAGMA circa '79 that is quite satisfying. The final
track 'Pzkr!' is a disappointment and I feel it contributes just a little annoyance
to spoil an otherwise interesting album.
Overall 'Fulmines Regularis' strikes me as a fair example of the variety of
music available from Les Enfants du Magma, and if you enjoy ESKATON, this is
pretty close to any of their work. If you have never heard some of the bands
referred to above, then I suggest you buy this MUSIQUE NOISE album before it
becomes as rare as all the other classic albums by those other Zeuhl groups.
Since as you will hopefully have gathered, I do actually like much of this album,
I think that Bernard Gueffier's opinion on the album is worth including, (please
note that Musea is Bernard's own record label).
This new group offer one of the most exciting and superb examples of actual
Zeuhl music, with powerful, fiery themes on which rise the female and male vocals
in the best MAGMA and ESKATON vocal tradition and which are enlightened by fantastic
sax or keyboard parts. They are dynamic, with tremendous melodies containing
complex developments and hyper-elaborated arrangements. Better than other Zeuhl
groups because of their great technical talent and original inspiration and
sumptuous Carl Orff - like choirs.
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Interesting review, though I have a problem with the "better than other Zeuhl groups." Better than some, perhaps? Might have been some lesser Zeuhl I've missed. And from Sean Trane at PA:
Review by
Sean Trane
(Hugues Chantraine)
SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Prog-Folk Specialist
Musique Noise is one of the umpthienth try from a french group to capitalize on Magma's
fame. It was an odd time to release such a record as in 88 such music was terribly uncool!!!
Although , the music is well recorded and executed, it has a bit of originality because of
the clear and well spoken french lyrics (superb voice of Isabelle Bruton), but this is about it
on the originality front. The music quickly goes down the beaten paths of your average
Zheul music all laid out well before by not only Magma, but also all of its offshoots (Zao,
Weidorge) but also Eskaton.
This album is only for real afficianados of Zheul or can also be considered as a good intro to
that particular style because it is fairly accessible for the unitiated.
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I'd give it two stars, anyway. Though Paga's Gnosis is not really Zeuhl, more fuzak (Paga's debut has two great tracks with the faboulous "Une PArcelle d'Urantia" and "Mitchinoku"), that is one of the more boring albums from a group coming from the Zeuhl tradition.
Edited by Logan - October 27 2007 at 15:46
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Yukorin
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Posted: October 27 2007 at 12:47 |
Latest boom in Japan: Kittens sleeping in cooking pots
猫なべ。Neko nabe
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ack44
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Posted: October 27 2007 at 11:02 |
My top 5...
1. Magma - Attahk 2. Weidorje - unreleased 2nd album 3. Koenjihyakkei - Anger Shisspa 4. Magma - Kobaia 5. Shub Niggerurath - s/t (cassette)
Weidorje's 2nd is totally awsome!
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Yukorin
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Posted: October 27 2007 at 02:42 |
Got the first three Eiliff and, of course, I love them! Anything like that is up my passage.
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listennow801
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Posted: October 27 2007 at 02:21 |
Yukorin wrote:
Hi darling! Long time no see! I've had yet another soccer mishap (bruised ribs this time...bleedin' agony)!
and yes, avestin is the nicest guy in these pages, if not the world! |
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hey baby!
i'm off for the eve, but in the meantime: Yuko! If you don't know Eiliff [you probably do tho] you MUST you great kraut fan: I think you'll really love them..esp the s/t
agreed! :)
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