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Originally posted by A Bard A Bard wrote:

Dark side of the Moon is not better than Foxtrot.

This is also true
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Dark side of the Moon is not better than Foxtrot.
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My biggest issue is trying to find some titles and find they are out of print or they are asking an exorbitant price for them. Would be nice if they would just offer flac downloads or if there was a way to share some of these titles that are out of print legally...
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I have no major gripes, especially with the ability to use filters.  So, if there's a sub-genre you don't like or don't think is Prog, or whatever, just filter it out!  Easy enough to do.

The filters are also good for seeing what lesser-known bands are getting good ratings--with the default settings, they tend to get bumped out by better know albums/bands.  The Maximum Number of Ratings setting is especially useful for finding great music that is less-well known.  I've been setting it to 100 to find some excellent bands (try it if you haven't--see what comes up).  I also recently tried 50, and saw that I hadn't heard most of the music! You can also filter by country, which has been useful for me, as I'm planning some radio programs (as a DJ) that highlight the best Prog from various regions (Latin America, France, Eastern Europe, etc.)

So, anyway, I use the filters for researching lesser know music, and encourage the same for others on this site.
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Interesting, I told that astronomy astrology anecdote in the boxes thread without looking at this topic which relates to the same thing. It's like the stars aligned or something. Excuse me if I repeat it here:

[Regarding Psychics and Psychologists]

l'm reminded of a story I heard on the radio relayed by an astronomer. This anecdote is to the best of my recollection with some embellishment, no doubt. He was at some sort of function and was approached by a seemingly wealthy Texan. The Texan asked, "What do you do? I'm in oil." The astronomer replied, "I'm the Astronomer Royal". The Texan replied, "Really, wow, so you tell the Queen her fortune? That's fascinating. Hey, got any predictions for me?" The astronomer replied, "Oil prices will continue to fluctuate over time". The Texan looked unimpressed. Feeling awkward, the astronomer said, "You might have misheard me, I'm the Astronomer Royal, not the Astrologer Royal, but we also make predictions... using astronomical data". "Oh, "said the Texan, "All right then", and walked off. I wondered if the Texan was joking and the astronomer didn't get the joke, or, well, I could see that being an easy mistake to make, especially in a crowded room. Royal Astrologer does have a historical ring to it.

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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:


^ You asked for it barney. LOL

Aye, but next mosh will be getting his astrology mixed up with astronomy, easy for post modernists who class both the same anyway with more credence given to the former...naturally😎

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You're the one confused ... astrology has not a whole lot of astronomy, specially when the position of the planets are not even correct!

However, like everything else, many folks can find meanings in everything ... including your tea leaves and trash! Confused
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:


^ You asked for it barney. LOL

Aye, but next mosh will be getting his astrology mixed up with astronomy, easy for post modernists who class both the same anyway with more credence given to the former...naturally😎

Edited by M27Barney - February 27 2020 at 09:45
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^ You asked for it barney. LOL
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I'm guessing that FZ is one of the actual intellectuals along with Moshkito . Put me in the pseud camp please or the just plain stupid will do fine.
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Richard ... I'm a CHARTER MEMBER of the "Sweet To Be An Idiot" club ... you can't have my title!

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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

^ oy! Do I qualify as a psuedo intellectual or a bone-fide intellectual? I demand to know what genre my intellect falls into and what qualia I have to demonstrate in order to make the grade...
This is tricky but true. People who judge others to be either pseudo intellectuals or "bona fide" intellectuals are the pseudo intellectuals. "Bona fide" intellectuals are too smart to judge people on the basis of a forum post.
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"FZ - You both fail, get to the back of the class"

Tell us what the lesson is first? Then the parameters that are used to judge pass/failure...Then I can evaluate and report back to the department of progressive evaluation....DOPE to you...

Edited by M27Barney - February 27 2020 at 05:28
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Junges Junges wrote:

Yay! Let's all vote OBJECTIVELY about something that is a matter of taste and save the world.. Ermm


Correct and I agree completely. That's been my entire point every post in this thread. It's all subjective, so why are people trying to argue there's a standard...then betray their own logic saying there isn't? That's all I'm seeing in this thread = "It's prog!" "It's not prog!" "Well, prog is actually a loose definition..." All of these are indirectly proving there is no one definition, and thus it will always be subjective regardless of our best effort to assign labels.

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Originally posted by Junges Junges wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

</span><div style="line-height: 16.5455px;">Can't fault your reasoning there but some folks (even the most outwardly self opinionated) are covertly insecure and like to have their tastes reinforced by what they believe are accredited sources.
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</span><div style="line-height: 16.5455px;">It is because they STRONGLY identify with what they like and they have the unconscious need to promote it and compare and rate and say it is better than X and Y in order to improve their self-esteem.<span style="line-height: 16.5455px;">
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<div style="line-height: 16.5455px;">Correct, but people forget this is a two way street. Dancing around in ambiguity/subjectivity while asserting prog rock is a set term in the first place is the same problem from a different angle. There are clearly two sides of the prog fence on PA. What I'm seeing is pseudo-intellectual people on PA getting pissed that actual intellectuals aren't putting up with irrational claims, doubling-down, then moving the goal posts when cornered (not saying you're doing this).


At last, a mind applying reason, logic and everyday common sense, thank you FZ. If a label can mean various things to various people, and isn't accepted by everyone as correct, then it isn't a label, hell, it isn't even an accepted working term.
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You both fail, get to the back of the class Wink.

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I'm guessing that FZ is one of the actual intellectuals along with Moshkito . Put me in the pseud camp please or the just plain stupid will do fine.
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^ oy! Do I qualify as a psuedo intellectual or a bone-fide intellectual? I demand to know what genre my intellect falls into and what qualia I have to demonstrate in order to make the grade...

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Originally posted by Junges Junges wrote:

Yay! Let's all vote OBJECTIVELY about something that is a matter of taste and save the world.. Ermm

Correct and I agree completely. That's been my entire point every post in this thread. It's all subjective, so why are people trying to argue there's a standard...then betray their own logic saying there isn't? That's all I'm seeing in this thread = "It's prog!" "It's not prog!" "Well, prog is actually a loose definition..." All of these are indirectly proving there is no one definition, and thus it will always be subjective regardless of our best effort to assign labels.

Originally posted by Junges Junges wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Can't fault your reasoning there but some folks (even the most outwardly self opinionated) are covertly insecure and like to have their tastes reinforced by what they believe are accredited sources.
It is because they STRONGLY identify with what they like and they have the unconscious need to promote it and compare and rate and say it is better than X and Y in order to improve their self-esteem.

Correct, but people forget this is a two way street. Dancing around in ambiguity/subjectivity while asserting prog rock is a set term in the first place is the same problem from a different angle. There are clearly two sides of the prog fence on PA. What I'm seeing is pseudo-intellectual people on PA getting pissed that actual intellectuals aren't putting up with irrational claims, doubling-down, then moving the goal posts when cornered (not saying you're doing this).

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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Fook me moshkito, can I ask you a simple question?
What colour is the sky on your planet?
I would guess that most of us normal.punters on here, dont buy the sheet music of ANYTHING we have in our cd collection. And then compare the music as lines on bits of paper....we listen to the fuzz and wah effects as it appeals or not, we differentiate between the solos on guitar, organ, piano or flute and we listen to the growling of death metal singers and determine its appeal and thus place it into the pigeonhole for connoseurs of death metal....you can study your bits of paper if you like...😎

Hi,

Now you know why there isn't enough respect for the "pop music" culture ... go ahead ... snort your sound effects. 

It's just an attempt to raise the quality and the respect of a lot of music, and I think that progressive music, should be treated with more respect, than your "connoseurs" of anything.

Btw ... it's not about the "sheet of music", what I wrote ... mostly you should know what a lot of paper is used for! 

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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Can't fault your reasoning there but some folks (even the most outwardly self opinionated) are covertly insecure and like to have their tastes reinforced by what they believe are accredited sources.
It is because they STRONGLY identify with what they like and they have the unconscious need to promote it and compare and rate and say it is better than X and Y in order to improve their self-esteem.
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Yay! Let's all vote OBJECTIVELY about something that is a matter of taste and save the world.. Ermm
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Fook me moshkito, can I ask you a simple question?

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