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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

[who won't touch anything in a language other than English with the proverbial ten-foot pole seems to have dwindled to almost nothing. 

The language of music is universal. AFAIC, the less chatter (in what ever tongue), the better Clap
 
What I would not touch even with a barge pole is English language lyrics that were written and/or sung by someone who did it for commercial purposes only, without a compelling emotional reason for doing so. My favorite (and very negative) example would be Garota D' Ipanema "translated", or rather re-written into English for facilitating the US sales. As the result, The Girl From Ipanema words in English sounds corny and stale. 

I looked up the original lyrics, picked up a few dozen Portuguese words, learned how to pronounce them, and guess what - I am glad I did. Stimulation and learning new things is what keeps your brain alive. Besides, I felt like I had a unique chance to peek into the long gone Carioca world of the early 1960s. 

I would encourage all songwriters outside of the Anglosphere to consider writing poetry in the language they are most comfortable with, to keep it genuine and eloquent. As for the listeners .. online translators are free to use and they are getting better, so no-one is going to die if a band sings in Norwegian or Italian.  


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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 14:26
If Gong wins, I lose a lot of respect for users on this siteTongue



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Points: 5109 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 14:07
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

Come on. This is Detroit people!! If Rush doesn't start getting more votes the Canadians will start marching over the bridge. There is already a crowd beginning to mass in Windsor.

Tell the Canadians their beer is nothing more than a pee! Evil Smile

Wouldn't even faze those polite people. Probably just say, "Well, more for me then eh."
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Points: 11698 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 13:10
Gong of course. I even like their dull albums.
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 08:48
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Gong are winning! Shocked  Can't hardly believe it.  LOL


I see Rush - Le Orme all over this one.  Down to the wire me thinks this one is going.. which we need.. we haven't been blessed with enough really tight ones.  The ones we had though.. have made it all worthwhile!
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Gong are winning! Shocked  Can't hardly believe it.  LOL
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Yes, I've noticed that the contingent of those who won't touch anything in a language other than English with the proverbial ten-foot pole seems to have dwindled to almost nothing. Like you, I am not a native speaker of English, and I teach my own native language for a living, therefore that attitude really got on my nerves big time. A few years ago I even wrote an essay for my blog, which you (or others) might be interested in reading - triggered by an extremely stupid remark found in a Prog mag review: http://progmistress.com/2011/07/27/speak-english-or-die-prog-in-other-languages/

Wow, I certainly missed that essay, Raffa, but I liked the part (response box): "Brazilian friends are always welcome here." Hug
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Ahhh you were thinking of OsannaLOL

Regarding your last comment: Cry
Some things never change. 'If you don't understand the lingo, ditch the music'. Such a shame... 
Although to be fair, we're quite a few on here who couldn't give a rat's rectum about the lingoClap




Yes, I've noticed that the contingent of those who won't touch anything in a language other than English with the proverbial ten-foot pole seems to have dwindled to almost nothing. Like you, I am not a native speaker of English, and I teach my own native language for a living, therefore that attitude really got on my nerves big time. A few years ago I even wrote an essay for my blog, which you (or others) might be interested in reading - triggered by an extremely stupid remark found in a Prog mag review: http://progmistress.com/2011/07/27/speak-english-or-die-prog-in-other-languages/
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I don't think we have as many anti-anything members as we used to have, although there still is a healthy population of folks who run screaming for the hills whenever DT gets mentioned, but just before their hike they take out the time to enlighten the rest of us on how awful the music is. That goes for ELP as well, but we can't change the world all at once. Like I said, it's not nearly as bad as it was a few years ago, and that pleases me immenselyBig smile

Still, a little poke here and a little stab there don't hurt anybody and adds a little hoho to what otherwise might turn into a librarians' convention.




yes, along with some obvious changes in the general forum atmosphere here since the old wild-west days, I have most certainly seen that. Another reason why I thought ELP might well really give Camel a run for their money. The anti-factions are definitely not as strong as they once were here.

oh and I do live for a little poking and stabbing.. it was easier back when the general forum knew me and my style well... I have had to be a bit more careful with all the new folks around perhaps not recognizing it isn't anything mean-spirited ...just all in fun. Nothing sucks more than a dull forum.
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I don't think we have as many anti-anything members as we used to have, although there still is a healthy population of folks who run screaming for the hills whenever DT gets mentioned, but just before their hike they take out the time to enlighten the rest of us on how awful the music is. That goes for ELP as well, but we can't change the world all at once. Like I said, it's not nearly as bad as it was a few years ago, and that pleases me immenselyBig smile

Still, a little poke here and a little stab there don't hurt anybody and adds a little hoho to what otherwise might turn into a librarians' convention.
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Ahhh you were thinking of OsannaLOL

Regarding your last comment: Cry
Some things never change. 'If you don't understand the lingo, ditch the music'. Such a shame... 
Although to be fair, we're quite a few on here who couldn't give a rat's rectum about the lingoClap




well we shall see how this best example of English paternalism of 2nd rate prog, whose best albums were done PRE-PROG.. does against the greatest and perhaps most respected of all 'foreign' prog groups. I expect a war,  but hope to have a close match. ELP-Camel sort of reaffirmed my faith in the forum to judge fairly and loss the bullsh*t they've had tossed in their ears by critics and haters.. we shall see if 2nd rate English music will trump 1st rate non-English music.
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Points: 23104 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 07:31
Ahhh you were thinking of OsannaLOL

Regarding your last comment: Cry
Some things never change. 'If you don't understand the lingo, ditch the music'. Such a shame... 
Although to be fair, we're quite a few on here who couldn't give a rat's rectum about the lingoClap
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 07:17
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Yeah what happened to AREACry


it was a little much to expect them to win against Gentle Giant (the only one that will knock them out will be a 'big heavy'... it was Osanna that didn't show well.. against a group that only did ONE thing better than Osanna.

Speak better English and have a larger fanbase. AngryLOL
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Yeah what happened to AREACry
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 07:09
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

What?!?!? Gong...in the lead?
Holy sauce!


some points to take from the tournament so far

1) ELP going a long way to re-establishing some respect and love on this forum
2) the Gong Army being a force to be reckoned with. Quite the fanbase
3) the Italians have quite a fanbase here, with only one disappointing result... SOON TO BE AVENGED LOLLOLAngry



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What?!?!? Gong...in the lead?
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i AM CANADIAN BUT I GONGED ! I AM , YOU ARE, WE ARE CRAZY! 
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I voted for Rush. Clap
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