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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7865 |
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^ well I could stare at that for days!!
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17965 |
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Very true....I am not into the metal that was being discussed, call me old school heavy metal, but IM artwork is pretty sick ![]() |
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7865 |
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The artwork attached to metal albums is its own subculture. I've always found that metal albums carry the strongest, most provocative artwork available out of any music genre. It's bloody amazing. I love Sepultura's, Iron Maiden's, Morbid Angel and Fear Factory's. it's very clever. |
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Tom Ozric ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
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^ Ha ! But " He's not in that place anymore "......
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17965 |
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And he printed those four letter words....
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Tom Ozric ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
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!!! ^ Nice one again. Beautiful job with the whole package with cool sleeve notes from Neal. So far it's my No.1 Spock's album (but I haven't heard them all).
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17965 |
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Finally got this on vinyl........One of my favorite SB albums. The SQ is fantastic, especially on The Light where they used the original 8-track cassette demo distorted vocals and guitar...But overall a very fine sounding vinyl by Inside Out Music.
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17965 |
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I can for sure see the value in buying some of these extreme metal issues on vinyl. Crazy artwork, gatefolds and usually colored vinyl...especially when they are limited in volume.
For sure if it was to my listening taste I'd be all over them.
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Prog Sothoth ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 03 2011 Location: MA Status: Offline Points: 1940 |
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Cool! Can't say I have any numbered vinyls, although I haven't really checked.
I'll only buy newer vinyl releases if I reeeaally dig the band, but man it's getting tempting to buy some obscure black metal release and just keep it in the packaging and hold it for a few years before selling it. Still, it kinda doesn't feel right for some reason. |
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Tom Ozric ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
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^ Amusing you should say 666 copies - I have Runaway Totem's 'Trimegisto' LP and it's limited to 666 copies !! Mine is no. 486...
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Prog Sothoth ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 03 2011 Location: MA Status: Offline Points: 1940 |
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A large contingent of metal fans in their younger years seem to treat metal, particularly the extreme stuff, as not just music but a lifestyle choice...an identity. The image, artwork and visual aspects of the band members themselves all play almost as much of a role as the music itself. A cultural thing, and owning vinyls with the large artwork are like "supporting the underground cause" or whatnot. Currently the numerous limited edition vinyls (independent metal-based labels don't tend to mass produce releases) also tend to shoot up in value pretty fast, with fanatics of certain acts willing to buy discontinued releases for higher prices...so there's the "investment" factor as well. I can only imagine how many extreme vinyl releases were limited to 666 copies. It is rather interesting that extreme metal fanatics are so willing to spend extra cash for large physical copies of their favorite band's releases, moreso than fans of most other genres I can think of. Then again, I was there too a long time ago, buying LPs and tapes of the craziest stuff I could find without even knowing what the bands actually sounded like. I just assumed it would be up my alley (although this would occasionally backfire). |
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17965 |
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^ Still good questions.....I don't work in the record industry or vinyl pressing plants. Maybe someone will join the forums that works in those segments, one day
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Tom Ozric ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
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I was just curious....
I thought maybe it depends on sales figures or popularity of an album. I do agree that with Marillion - Radiation, we get an entirely '2013' Remix' and totally new cover based on the same idea, and all pressed on lush blue wax, with an etching design taking up the 4th side. Very nice indeed. But why choose an edition of this album over Anoraknophobia ??? Maybe in the future perhaps ?? Why 'The Twenty Seven Club' and not 'Seven' (Magenta in this case) ??? |
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17965 |
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Its no secret that the last several yrs more vinyl is being issued every year almost. Labels like Rhino, Friday Music, Music On Vinyl, Kscope, InsideOut, Madfish and many others are having pressings done of not only new releases but also older releases. How is that decision made, not really sure but I assume Friday Music for example is in the music business and they are going to re-issue bands like Yes with the members permission and pay them royalties or a one-time fee. They will remaster and sometimes remix either an original issue or one of the previous re-issues, I suspect it just depends on the price they are willing to pay. Marbles was reissued in 2011 from the original 2004 release, Madfish label is doing them. The big thing is they get redone on heavy weight vinyl like 180gram, versus the thinner 120gram vinyl. The covers are redone and or normally kept like the original if it was vinyl. Printed sleeves, notes, pictures maybe an insert with additional information, just a better packaging. Radiation was remixed from the original 1999 recording and issued on vinyl, this packaging was redone and also made in blue 180gram vinyl. What gets me is when you look at new vinyl releases, from what I see on websites and in record stores...deathmetal, gore, blackmetal adn the like are getting issued on almost everything! I cannot believe that crowd is in the 40-50yr old segment, it must be 20-40yr olds buying up all that death/gore/black metal vinyl! Would be good if someone from the recording industry knew how that works...good question! |
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17965 |
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Its OK...no
worries!! Amp = Amplifier, what powers your speakers. Could be a receiver, which is
an amplifier with FM/AM ability. I don't use a receiver in my main system, I
just don't listen to the radio anymore at home. I use what is called an
integrated amplifier, so it powers my speakers and I connect all my sources to
it, sources could be CD Player, Tape Player, MP3 player and a turntable....This
is where it can get confusing. If your receiver or integrated amplifier is an older production model it
probably has PHONO inputs on the back, if it is a newer production model it
probably does not have PHONO inputs. If the latter then you need what is called
a PHONO PREAMP or PHONO STAGE, people call them different. It is required
because the output signal from the cartridge is so low compared to the output
signal from say a CD player, it needs to be amplified to bring it to line level
output. You cannot plug in a turntable to your CD or TAPE inputs, it will sound
muffled and low volume. The phono amp will boost the signal but also vey important is it also corrects for RIAA frequency curve used to create the vinyl albums. I won't go into that as it is detailed, you can Google RIAA frequency curve and read what it is and why they do it on wikipedia or other website. |
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7865 |
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An excellent question, Tom. I've not much knowledge to expell in this matter, but I am curious so I guess I should thank you for that. I'm gonna do some digging. :) |
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Thanks guys for the help! I just realized I have no idea what you both are talking about with amp, phono amp etc. :-) I really am a complete newbie in this realm... currently I have a pretty cheap ion turntable with what I assume is a pretty lo fi cartridge... so yeah I think I need some vynil education...
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Tom Ozric ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
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Regarding vinyl re-issues ......
My question is ....... How does a label judge which album of a, say, White Willow, album gets (deserves) a vinyl pressing (until now we only get their debut and their latest...). Another example - why Marillion's Radiation and not Marbles ???? ...... |
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7865 |
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Let me know what you decide on getting, but Pioneer always have affordable and reasonable pricing for decent audio speakers paired for a vinyl set up. What kind of amp/receiver do you have? Otherwise. Jose is pretty knowledgable when it comes vinyl set up's. I'm the digital guy, but if you ever get into DAC's let me know. They are great!! |
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