stop the "Neo" prog label ?

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Edited by Snow Dog - January 27 2013 at 10:59

I am not sure Genesis were ever in search of any elusive 'musical quality' in the sense Ivan seems to suggest.   Even when their music was more complex and ambitious, that was never the point of their music and it was always more accessible than ELP or KC, even Yes or JT at times.   I personally do not regard Invisible Touch as a masterpiece nor do I consider pop Genesis particularly masterful....mainly, I find Collins's singing too dull for me to dig that kind of music.   But I do have to point out that it's not as if they transformed overnight from Dave Brubeck to Debbie Gibson.   Even IT is still proper songs, not just a collection of dance beats.  Only the 'clothes' are distinctly 80s.  So what?  Fans have no monopoly on what sounds an artist can use. 

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Snow Dog wrote: ^Thank you for allowing me the option. I only ask to be allowed the same option

Snow Dog wrote: ^Thank you for allowing me the option.

Snow Dog wrote: I find most Prog fans insufferable most of  the time.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - January 27 2013 at 10:42

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Snow Dog wrote: ^They always wanted success and money from the very beginning. But I don;t ubnderstand why it is lazy. Besides Steve didn't call people who dislike it intellectually lazy, he called that to people who continually slam it. It gets boring to read too Ha ha Invisible Cruth is crap..ha ha. I believe it's lazy, because being capable musicians, they ceased to search for quality and went for easy money. Lately it seems offensive to love Prog, people call Prog lovers by many names, from arrogant, self indulgent to Prog snobs, and seem to forget we are here because our common love for Prog. But at the end, allow people to voice their opinions about the album, this is not personal, honestly i prefer using it as a Frisbee than listening it. Iván

Edited by Snow Dog - January 27 2013 at 10:37

^They always wanted success and money from the very beginning. But I don;t ubnderstand why it is lazy.

Edited by Snow Dog - January 27 2013 at 10:25

Roland113 wrote: Tom Ozric wrote: ............and put it this way - I was not too impressed when I heard I.T. back in 1987 - most of its songs were getting airplay, and only the 'Domino' epic was memorable for me.  When I heard the self-titled album at the same time in 1987, it was a different story.......haha heh, owww............ I will apologise for the offensive name I gave it, but I won't apologise for not liking the damn thing........ Thanks Tom, I appreciate that.   and it was only the insult that I took offense at, not that you didn't like it  :)

I follow what you say  I agree that I.T. is a gateway for discovering Prog...... - if it's possible, somehow to remove the offensive word or my original post which contained it.......??  Very childish of me.......

rogerthat wrote: I confess I cannot see the influence of I.T on modern prog either.   I think Rush and Queensryche were much bigger influences on modern prog.

Roland113 wrote: . . . and finally . . .  Regarding Invisible Touch, it is so incredibly easy to bash the album twenty five years after it was released.  In doing so, you are marginalizing the infuence that it had on modern prog.  Like it or not, it was probably the most infuential album in my life.

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