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Originally posted by Chozal Chozal wrote:

Pretentious : "Making unjustified or excessive claims as of value, or standing".


Based on this definition, I would say GOOD prog is not pretentious, though there is much potential for the musicians making it to get arrogant....
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Prog has a tendency to be pretentious and over the top, but that's down to the individuals lack of sense and taste. It needn't be like that.
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Much prog is pretentious, but is that so bad?
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Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

I'm a pretentious snob LOL


I always take that accusation as a compliment.
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It depends on you.

For example, I'm a pretentious snob LOL
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Ohhhhh heeeeeeeeeell yes!!!
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Points: 26138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2012 at 21:47
 "Pretentious" is a pejorative term, so it really depends on whether you like what the artist is doing or not.  If I like it, I don't call it pretentious.  Doesn't mean it isn't for someone else.
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It does pretend to be pretensioussesnessesses verry hard.  Epic fail. Tongue




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Edited by Slartibartfast - January 20 2012 at 21:21
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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I would think that prog rock is post-tentious at this juncture. It was pre-tentious several decades ago. It's silly to call it progressive at this point, just as it's silly to call another genre alternative rock. An alternative to what? Wink
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Depends on why a musician is creating music.  For ego attention or to heal others? 




Edited by Mescalito19 - January 19 2012 at 21:34
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^How did you make/find the gif?

There's a lovely collection of them on Filmmaker IQ (a fellow blog of mine). You call them cinemagraphs, because they are actually stills, but with small sections animated....... either by using fragments of motion from the actual film, or clever photoshopping.

No, I didn't make them myself!


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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

We'll take that as a "Yes" then.
 
I think it's YES on our part. I'm not sure that translates to the music itself. I'm not sure that we should super-impose our own views on the music. I can tell you my feelings, but tellin you how you feel, or Snow Dog feels ... is not something that I enjoy doing at all, and try not to do.
 
So, the question is ... WHOSE pretentious-ness are we discussing?

Nobody has ever asked you what you think we feel. I presumed you realised, that things you posted were what you felt...and nothing more nor less.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

We'll take that as a "Yes" then.
 
I think it's YES on our part. I'm not sure that translates to the music itself. I'm not sure that we should super-impose our own views on the music. I can tell you my feelings, but tellin you how you feel, or Snow Dog feels ... is not something that I enjoy doing at all, and try not to do.
 
So, the question is ... WHOSE pretentious-ness are we discussing?


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^How did you make/find the gif?
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Points: 1433 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2011 at 06:40

Funny how we ended up talking about Kubrick in a thread about pretentiousness.


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The power of Stanley Kubrick! RIP. 
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Points: 1433 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2011 at 15:36

Originally posted by kingcrimsonfan kingcrimsonfan wrote:

I may sound stupid but what film is that from?

Dr. Strangelove (or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb)


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Points: 1433 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2011 at 15:35

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

That sig is from a great film indeed.

^ So's yours.

But mine is there to represent my mixture of bewilderment and indifference over some of the strange things that get posted on this forum.


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