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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

You are a very serious person, aren't you Negoba?


I actually expected a "Why so serious?" with the joker in some form as the response to that. Buy you were gentle with me. Last person I would have expected to have a smooth hand. 
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Only from bands I love or formed by great musicians, this is the list of the ones I would never buy or recommend (Worst is a word I hardly use when talking about taste:

  1. Invisible Touch (To be honest, every post Duke Genesis album could be here)
  2. GTR - GTR
  3. Love Beach - ELP
  4. Kilroy Was Here - STYX
  5. Vinyl Confessions - Kansas 
That's MY list

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You are a very serious person, aren't you Negoba?
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My "spiritually dangerous" reference correlates with the Nietsche quote "and when you look too deeply into the abyss, the abyss looks into you." 

I googled this and someone reasonably asked "what does that mean." The answers were amazingly shallow. I guess you have to have looked at least a little to get it. 

Not that it really matters, but I've watched quite a few people die. I've helped quite a few. My own lack of skill has contributed to a few. Death is a powerful part of this existence. We all circle it and try to poke it and figure it out. 

But when you've experienced it in reality, you realize what blackness must be in the soul to contemplate something like Leng T'che (the practice not the album). Zorn (and others) looked into the picture and saw ecstasy in the victim's face. Regardless of your religious thoughts, rather right here, right now, if this isn't spiritually dangerous territory I don't know what is. 

It would have taken a stroke of amazing genius to channel that aspect of human experience.

My personal opinion is that Naked City eventually made a mockery of it. Others obviously disagree.
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Originally posted by Jake Kobrin Jake Kobrin wrote:

Also, check out this list: http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=bottom&type=album&year=alltime&genre_include=1&genres=progressive+rock%2C+progressive+metal%2C+psychedelic+rock%2C+psychedelic+folk%2C+krautrock%2C+art+rock&include_child_genres=t&include=both&origin_countries=&limit=none&countries=




Interesting. There aren't many really low rated ones.

Also, LOL @ The Beachles
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Originally posted by Jake Kobrin Jake Kobrin wrote:

Also, check out this list: http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=bottom&type=album&year=alltime&genre_include=1&genres=progressive+rock%2C+progressive+metal%2C+psychedelic+rock%2C+psychedelic+folk%2C+krautrock%2C+art+rock&include_child_genres=t&include=both&origin_countries=&limit=none&countries=




Interesting list. I actualy think Only Human by Amon Duul II is very underrated and quite enjoyable.
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Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

I agree that Musical taste is subjective, but I simply have a hard time believing that people legitimately enjoy this. Finding it interesting? Sure I could see that. But at the end of the day, It's pretty much just a mess of avant-garde w**kery with no structure or composition. And I mean no disrespect to Beefheart, i actually enjoy Safe As Milk to an extent, but I stand by my choice of words. Trout Mask Replica is retarded.


I can say without exaggeration that I legitimately enjoy the record. It makes me smile. Strangely enough, many of the tracks on it actually become really catchy after a few dozen listens.


I second this - once you start to get to know the words and the tiny patterns within, it opens up and shows signs of melody, albeit not in a friendly and soothing way. It took some time though.
First time I heard this was on a boxing day years ago, -I danced like a flamenco pro on amphetamine while shouting obscene ramblings wearing a Christmas hat with reindeer and the works- my mom had knitted for me. Love at first sight, although I love it for different reasons now.   
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Also, check out this list: http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=bottom&type=album&year=alltime&genre_include=1&genres=progressive+rock%2C+progressive+metal%2C+psychedelic+rock%2C+psychedelic+folk%2C+krautrock%2C+art+rock&include_child_genres=t&include=both&origin_countries=&limit=none&countries=
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oElPM2MaMM8
Bad noise. It is good until the earsplitting noise comes in though.
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^Uhh - that one makes me cringe. Loved Sabbath since I was a kid, but Forbidden made my stomach turn.
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Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

I agree that Musical taste is subjective, but I simply have a hard time believing that people legitimately enjoy this. Finding it interesting? Sure I could see that. But at the end of the day, It's pretty much just a mess of avant-garde w**kery with no structure or composition. And I mean no disrespect to Beefheart, i actually enjoy Safe As Milk to an extent, but I stand by my choice of words. Trout Mask Replica is retarded.


I can say without exaggeration that I legitimately enjoy the record. It makes me smile. Strangely enough, many of the tracks on it actually become really catchy after a few dozen listens.
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1.56 | 34 ratings
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2011 at 18:39
Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

There's probably worse music on the archives, but the only reason I could think of someone to even think of listening to this is to look "deep" with their last.fm scrobbles.


It sure as hell wouldn't make them look deep. LOLWink
In the same way some who's favourite painter is Jackson Pollack is "deep". It kind of pisses me off when people try to pass Beefheart for a "genius" or something for playing some retarded sounding blues rock.


My favorite painter is Kandinsky. Am I deep? Also, Trout Mask Replica is brilliant.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlurQbs_GiY&feature=related
 
Good noise.


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Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

It's spiritually dangerous to hear an entire Metheny album.

You young noise hipsters should dig this...



I'm not a noise hipster; I barely can listen to noise music.
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Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

 
I agree that Musical taste is subjective, but I simply have a hard time believing that people legitimately enjoy this.


Well yeah, that's because you ignored all the posts where people explained why they like it.
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I guess this thread had to go down this road. Trout Mask might sound retarded to you, and a lot of other people as well, but again it is yours and theirs opinion - it can never really be backed up by proof. Music will never be science, and what some call retarded - others find truly wonderful in all of its cacophony.

Edit: Whoops - seems as there were some posts who snug in there before I got finished    


Edited by Guldbamsen - July 06 2011 at 18:20
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Points: 65760 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2011 at 18:14
My only problem with TMR is that it is too long of an album.
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Points: 5208 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2011 at 18:14
Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

It's spiritually dangerous to hear an entire Metheny album.

You young noise hipsters should dig this...




Edited by Negoba - July 06 2011 at 18:15
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

There's probably worse music on the archives, but the only reason I could think of someone to even think of listening to this is to look "deep" with their last.fm scrobbles.


It sure as hell wouldn't make them look deep. LOLWink
In the same way some who's favourite painter is Jackson Pollack is "deep". It kind of pisses me off when people try to pass Beefheart for a "genius" or something for playing some retarded sounding blues rock.


I like Beefheart and never look at his music as deep or genius but calling his music retarded-sounding is a little offensive. He did put alot of work into the record and some like it, some don't, simple as that.

RIP Don Van Vilet.
I agree that Musical taste is subjective, but I simply have a hard time believing that people legitimately enjoy this. Finding it interesting? Sure I could see that. But at the end of the day, It's pretty much just a mess of avant-garde w**kery with no structure or composition. And I mean no disrespect to Beefheart, i actually enjoy Safe As Milk to an extent, but I stand by my choice of words. Trout Mask Replica is retarded.
I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't
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