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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2010 at 07:45
Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

I thought bread was "peka" in croatian language...
 
by the way Marija, from their second record is simply superb!!

Not that I know of.... although very possible, "Pekara" means bakery in most slavic languages so it probably derived from it


Originally posted by Paravion Paravion wrote:

North Korean prog played by children

Definitely interesting ... but Korea is somewhat far away from former Yugoslavia isn't it? LOL


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I thought bread was "peka" in croatian language...
 
by the way Marija, from their second record is simply superb!!
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Leb i Sol (Bread and salt)

Founded: 1976

Country: Macedonia

Genre: Rock, Jazz Rock, Ethno-Jazz, Progressive Rock

Years active: 1976 – 1995, 2006 – Present

 

Current members:

Mico Bozikov

Bodan Arsovski

Nikola Kokan Dimusevski

Mihail Parusev

 

Former Members:

Vlatko Stefanovski

Kiril Dzajkovski

Dragoljub Duricic

Dimitrie Cucurovski

Garabet Tavitjan

Srdan Dunkic

 

Discography (Studio Albums):

Leb i sol (1978)

Leb i sol 2 (1978)

Ručni rad (1979)

Beskonačno (1981)

Sledovanje (1982)

Kalabalak (1983)

Tangenta (1984)

Zvučni zid (1986)

Kao kakao (1987)

Putujemo (1989)

 

Note: There are many fine reviews about this jewel of Yugoslavian prog more so than usual. Thanks go to the usual suspects Seyo and clarke2001, to my helpful visitors Finnforest, snobb and Andrea Cortese, and to those who I did not mention here.

 

Silly little fact: there are some differences how the band is pronounced in countries of ex-Yugoslavia. In Serbia you would say “Hleb” instead of Leb and in Croatia they use the word “Kruh” for bread. The languages might be similar but never quite the same.

Foundation:

Leb i Sol was founded 1976 by legendary guitarist (and vocalist) Vlatko Stefanovski, bass guitarist Bodan Arsovski, Keyboardist Nikola Kokan Dimusevski and drummer Garabet Tavitjan

 

The Impact of Leb i sol 1 and 2:

 

The first album of the band, released in 1978, was well received by critics and with its unusual musical structure and unusual scales it is a magnificent album, truly a must for any collector of Yugoslav prog

 

With the song Devetka you can clearly hear the jazz influence in the work of Leb i Sol.

 

Devetka:

 

Here we have a more folk-like song

 

Pod vodom:

 

 

In the same year the band released Leb i Sol 2 which was more successful than the debut album commercially as well as musically.

 

Here we have the simply stunning Akupunktura

 

Akupunktura:

 

And another stunning song, this album just keeps on giving and giving

 

Marija:

 

 

Rucni Rad:

 

Wow 2 fantastic albums, how can Leb i Sol top that? Simple, they made Rucni Rad! Rucni Rad is my personal favorite of the band; at some moments its melody seemed to bring me to tears. Who knows? Maybe you will also start weeping with joy.

Hogar:

 

Fun fact: The song was named after “Hagar” a comic strip by Dik Browne which was (and still is) translated in Yugoslavia as “Hogar strasni” trans: Hagar the terrible/terrifying.

 

Rucni rad:

 

 

 A slightly different Leb i Sol:

 

Founding Keyboarder Dimusevski left the band and was replaced by ex-Smak keyboarder Miki Petrovski, who left the band as well after a couple months. The band decided to go on as a trio and recorded the album “Infinity”. With the new wave craze coming to Yugoslavia other bands had to adapt or perish, and Leb i Sol wanted to stay at the top. The new album has some New wave influence mixed with a good fusion-like sound. If given a chance, “Infinity” can be a highly enjoyable album.

 

A clear example of this change can be heard in the song beli mrak (which is really enjoyable if you are a fan of New wave such as myself)

 

Beli mrak:

 

 

Sledovanje and Kalabalak

Sledovanje is seen as a very poor album with the same influences as Infinity. Unlike Infinity, Sledovanjes mix of new wave and jazz-fusion failed.

 

Kalabalak is refreshing after Sledovanje with mostly instrumental track and showed the poppy sound of Leb i Sol.

 

Bistra voda:

 

 

Tangenta and Zvucni Zid:

 

Two mediocre pop albums at best, two sad displays by a great band at its worst. Tangenta and Zvucni Zid have little or nothing to offer to the explorer of Yugoslav Prog. Zvucni Zid still features some smooth guitar licks and riffs by Stefanovski but pale in comparison to the first three albums.

 

Kao Kakao:

Kao Kakao is one of the most commercially successful albums of Yugoslavia during the 80’s. Mostly consisting of pop driven sounds you can still recognize the prog/roots of the band

 

 

Cekam kisu:

 

 

 

Putujemo:

Another successful pop album, not something for the prog lover but there is a gem within every album and that gem is Cukni vo Drvo.

 

Cukni vo Drvo:

 

Culture fact: Cukni vo drvo is Macedonian for “knock on wood” which is a saying in Yugoslav countries. Example: “Let’s knock on the wood that we are all alright” it can replace “thank goodness” if it’s more comprehensible that way.

 

Disbandment and reunion:

After a long hiatus(and some more or less successful live albums) the band decided to disband in 1995. 2006 a reunion tour was planned for the 30th anniversary of the band. After the tour Vladko Stefanovski decided to leave the band for good, which came as a shock to many Leb i Sol fans.

 

I TAKA NATAKA:

With Dimitar Bozikov replacing Stefanovski and with Dado Topic (Who we all know quite well by now) the band recorded their latest album I TAKA NATAKA in 2008. Though the elements of prog have faded away jazz is strongly featured in the new album.

Not essential, nonetheless enjoyable.

 

Si zaljubiv edno mome:

 

Hope you all enjoyed this post and I sincerely apologize for the great delay. From now on I can only manage a post in a week or 2 with school starting. Priorities have to be set (sadly) and exams won’t be a stroll in the park this year (I’m getting sick of just thinking of them). Anyway next post might be a special post or a regular post so keep your eyes open. Wink

 

 



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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Thanks for sharing this often overlooked music!

Thanks for the compliment, i'm just a bit disappointed at myself for not updating as often as I would like to.... still don't know when the next post  will be up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2010 at 07:40
Thanks for sharing this often overlooked music!
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This thread is also a good source of information and the summuary of what we talked about on this site until now.
 
 


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Originally posted by ljubaspriest ljubaspriest wrote:

One more thing,before I forget(I'm 53,getting senile).Found a used cd from a band called FIRE "Could you understand?" on a South-African(?)label Skyf Zol.I heard of them before,album of theirs is one of the rarest lp's around collectors circles.Apparently they hailed from Croatia(ex YU) and members are:Jura Havidic,Miljenko Balic and Emil Vugrinec,and they played psychedelic hard rock with some killer fuzzed-out guitar leads,stuff everybody call "stoner-rock" nowadays.Well worth investigating.


That was an incredible discovery for me too! It was recommended here for inclusion into PA some time ago but was rejected. Nonetheless, "prog" or not, it is an amazingly rocking album, I would say some early precursors to latecomers Partibrejkers or Majke...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2010 at 06:57
Originally posted by Weirdamigo Weirdamigo wrote:



Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:

Weirdamigo, thanks for opening this post-blog! Clap

Mind you, there are already more than a few bands from exYU included on the PA, look here:

http://www.progarchives.com/Bands-country.asp?country=203

I personally take care of updating all info and reviewing many of the albums which are not yet evaluated. I hope you will contribute too. 

Cheers! Thumbs Up




It's quite an honor for me to see you post here, I've always read your reviews with great delight even before I joined PA, keep up the fantastic workThumbs Up

With the list you provided me has saved me a great deal of work and I will get to reviewing Ex-YU albums as soon as I can.



Your post is the best proof for me that all this work of mine makes sense. I appriciate that much. Big smile
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Originally posted by ljubaspriest ljubaspriest wrote:

In any case,I can warmly recommend Bilja's cd w/two for one on one cd,knowing about your publicly declared  love for DCD,I'm sure you will enjoyed it.


In that case, I can hardly refuse your generous recommendation. I will certainly look for Bilja & Bistrik...Wink
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One more thing,before I forget(I'm 53,getting senile).Found a used cd from a band called FIRE "Could you understand?" on a South-African(?)label Skyf Zol.I heard of them before,album of theirs is one of the rarest lp's around collectors circles.Apparently they hailed from Croatia(ex YU) and members are:Jura Havidic,Miljenko Balic and Emil Vugrinec,and they played psychedelic hard rock with some killer fuzzed-out guitar leads,stuff everybody call "stoner-rock" nowadays.Well worth investigating.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2010 at 16:36
Originally posted by Weirdamigo Weirdamigo wrote:


Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

eh ehe he
 
By the way, I think Bijelo Dugme's albums until 1979 are worthy of investigation for any progger. For such albums as Sta Bi Dao, Etò and Bitanga, I'd put them with other bands as Deep Purple or Uriah Heep. I know also some english band have covered them during the seventies.
 
On about guitarists, I prefer Vlatko Stefanovski over Tocak but both are at the top.

Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

Leb I Sol could be interesting for many as well :)

Leb I Sol is the next band on the blog so you I will definitely mention Stefanovski. Another great guitarist to be introduced, so much to do so much to do LOL


Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:

Weirdamigo, thanks for opening this post-blog! Clap

Mind you, there are already more than a few bands from exYU included on the PA, look here:

http://www.progarchives.com/Bands-country.asp?country=203

I personally take care of updating all info and reviewing many of the albums which are not yet evaluated. I hope you will contribute too. 

Cheers! Thumbs Up




It's quite an honor for me to see you post here, I've always read your reviews with great delight even before I joined PA, keep up the fantastic workThumbs Up

With the list you provided me has saved me a great deal of work and I will get to reviewing Ex-YU albums as soon as I can.



Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

Ahh, Seyo!  Hug
 
Your reviews have helped me sort through these difficult compilations and albums, most recently Korni Grupa and Indexi.  Many many many thanks!  (And your posting the yurock blogspot link has been most helpful as well!)
 
Weirdamigo, this blog is wonderful!  The band entries you've posted so far have been especially good.  Keep up the great work!  Long live Yugo Prog!  (And Eastern European prog in general!)

I will do my best . I just hope the quality won't deteriorate Smile.


Originally posted by ljubaspriest ljubaspriest wrote:

Great job so far, Weirdamigo.Let the proggers all over the world hear some of the goods produced in our beloved Yugoslavia during golden times.I was visiting Bosnia&Serbia this past may and was deeply disappointed by state of musical affairs over there.Amount of "neo-turbo-folk" content on radio and TV stations is morbidly inadequate.I had hard time finding any quality(not pirate)cd's in Bosnia.Belgrade(Serbia)offered  little more,so I scored "Kongres rock majstora"(finally on cd),a great compilation of 16 songs from 4 best guitarists in YU rock of mid 70's,RM Tocak's first album,Suncokret's "Moje bube" and several used lp's(Smak,Boomerang,Time).Best new(at least to my ears)artist I found interesting was Biljana Krstic(formerly of Suncokret&Rani Mraz)with her band Bistrik Orchestra,playing kind of  folk w/mild prog influences mostly in instrumentation.It's probably a strech,but I will call it Balkan version of Dead Can Dance.Maybe somebody would consider adding them to the YU-prog list roster.Seyo,what do you think?Anyway,keep on proggin' Weirdamigo and good luck.Regards from Canada.

Wow. Thats quite a praise you gave me , thanks you Smile.
It is truly sad what became of music in the Ex-YU countries, most people don't even regard the rock scene as worthy of their time, truly a depressing sight to behold but as we all know, rock will never die. I am surprised that you found a Suncokret album, I've been looking for one for a couple of years now. A fantastic band that I will have to review sooner or later. If you are still on the lookout for albums of the 70's and 80's I would suggest that you try "Croatia Records" the next time you come to visit, they are what's left of the great Yugoslav record label "Yugoton".
Regards from Serbia Smile

Weirdamigo(awesome nick,by the way)I found Suncokret digipack cd (One records #158)in a record store in Knez Mihajlova street by that water fountain.I also went to Jugoton(Croatia rec.) where I found Kongres rock majstora i J.Lisac's first lp.Truth of the matter is,some of the records that are essential and become,in some ways,cultural heritage of a lost(Yugoslavian)nation,will never be re-released on cd,which is a damn shame.Rare high quality acts,like Bilja Krstic&Bistrik Orchestra,who I almost accidentally caugt on a RTS programme are beautiful reminder of a talent that got lost in an ocean of kitch and cultural genocide.This is why  your blog here and Seyo's work on Prog acts from YU is very important to us all.Have a good one!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2010 at 16:09
Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:

Originally posted by ljubaspriest ljubaspriest wrote:

Great job so far, Weirdamigo.Let the proggers all over the world hear some of the goods produced in our beloved Yugoslavia during golden times.I was visiting Bosnia&Serbia this past may and was deeply disappointed by state of musical affairs over there.Amount of "neo-turbo-folk" content on radio and TV stations is morbidly inadequate.I had hard time finding any quality(not pirate)cd's in Bosnia.Belgrade(Serbia)offered  little more,so I scored "Kongres rock majstora"(finally on cd),a great compilation of 16 songs from 4 best guitarists in YU rock of mid 70's,RM Tocak's first album,Suncokret's "Moje bube" and several used lp's(Smak,Boomerang,Time).Best new(at least to my ears)artist I found interesting was Biljana Krstic(formerly of Suncokret&Rani Mraz)with her band Bistrik Orchestra,playing kind of  folk w/mild prog influences mostly in instrumentation.It's probably a strech,but I will call it Balkan version of Dead Can Dance.Maybe somebody would consider adding them to the YU-prog list roster.Seyo,what do you think?Anyway,keep on proggin' Weirdamigo and good luck.Regards from Canada.


Ljubas, I have not heard Bilja Krstić yet. My interest generally stops at 1990 (and it is practical to define some boundaries for the research purposes) and I only occassionally follow what is happening in the successor Yugoslav states. There are some good things to be sure (Darkwood Dub is alredy mentioned) but I don't find anything as challenging for my ears as some oldies. It is not only "turbo-folk" but the general trend is awful everywhere I am afraid.
Well,maybe you should reconsider expanding your interest little further ahead of 1990,'cause rare acts like above mentioned Bilja Krstic&Bistrik Orchestra deserve more attention in the light of appaling state of popular music all over frmr.YU.But,then again,I agree to certain extent with your point knowing that with cesation of Yugoslavia almost all quality art forms went to sh*ts,pardon my french.In any case,I can warmly recommend Bilja's cd w/two for one on one cd,knowing about your publicly declared  love for DCD,I'm sure you will enjoyed it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2010 at 15:07
Originally posted by ljubaspriest ljubaspriest wrote:

Great job so far, Weirdamigo.Let the proggers all over the world hear some of the goods produced in our beloved Yugoslavia during golden times.I was visiting Bosnia&Serbia this past may and was deeply disappointed by state of musical affairs over there.Amount of "neo-turbo-folk" content on radio and TV stations is morbidly inadequate.I had hard time finding any quality(not pirate)cd's in Bosnia.Belgrade(Serbia)offered  little more,so I scored "Kongres rock majstora"(finally on cd),a great compilation of 16 songs from 4 best guitarists in YU rock of mid 70's,RM Tocak's first album,Suncokret's "Moje bube" and several used lp's(Smak,Boomerang,Time).Best new(at least to my ears)artist I found interesting was Biljana Krstic(formerly of Suncokret&Rani Mraz)with her band Bistrik Orchestra,playing kind of  folk w/mild prog influences mostly in instrumentation.It's probably a strech,but I will call it Balkan version of Dead Can Dance.Maybe somebody would consider adding them to the YU-prog list roster.Seyo,what do you think?Anyway,keep on proggin' Weirdamigo and good luck.Regards from Canada.


Ljubas, I have not heard Bilja Krstić yet. My interest generally stops at 1990 (and it is practical to define some boundaries for the research purposes) and I only occassionally follow what is happening in the successor Yugoslav states. There are some good things to be sure (Darkwood Dub is alredy mentioned) but I don't find anything as challenging for my ears as some oldies. It is not only "turbo-folk" but the general trend is awful everywhere I am afraid.
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Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

eh ehe he
 
By the way, I think Bijelo Dugme's albums until 1979 are worthy of investigation for any progger. For such albums as Sta Bi Dao, Etò and Bitanga, I'd put them with other bands as Deep Purple or Uriah Heep. I know also some english band have covered them during the seventies.
 
On about guitarists, I prefer Vlatko Stefanovski over Tocak but both are at the top.

Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

Leb I Sol could be interesting for many as well :)

Leb I Sol is the next band on the blog so you I will definitely mention Stefanovski. Another great guitarist to be introduced, so much to do so much to do LOL


Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:

Weirdamigo, thanks for opening this post-blog! Clap

Mind you, there are already more than a few bands from exYU included on the PA, look here:

http://www.progarchives.com/Bands-country.asp?country=203

I personally take care of updating all info and reviewing many of the albums which are not yet evaluated. I hope you will contribute too. 

Cheers! Thumbs Up




It's quite an honor for me to see you post here, I've always read your reviews with great delight even before I joined PA, keep up the fantastic workThumbs Up

With the list you provided me has saved me a great deal of work and I will get to reviewing Ex-YU albums as soon as I can.



Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

Ahh, Seyo!  Hug
 
Your reviews have helped me sort through these difficult compilations and albums, most recently Korni Grupa and Indexi.  Many many many thanks!  (And your posting the yurock blogspot link has been most helpful as well!)
 
Weirdamigo, this blog is wonderful!  The band entries you've posted so far have been especially good.  Keep up the great work!  Long live Yugo Prog!  (And Eastern European prog in general!)

I will do my best . I just hope the quality won't deteriorate Smile.


Originally posted by ljubaspriest ljubaspriest wrote:

Great job so far, Weirdamigo.Let the proggers all over the world hear some of the goods produced in our beloved Yugoslavia during golden times.I was visiting Bosnia&Serbia this past may and was deeply disappointed by state of musical affairs over there.Amount of "neo-turbo-folk" content on radio and TV stations is morbidly inadequate.I had hard time finding any quality(not pirate)cd's in Bosnia.Belgrade(Serbia)offered  little more,so I scored "Kongres rock majstora"(finally on cd),a great compilation of 16 songs from 4 best guitarists in YU rock of mid 70's,RM Tocak's first album,Suncokret's "Moje bube" and several used lp's(Smak,Boomerang,Time).Best new(at least to my ears)artist I found interesting was Biljana Krstic(formerly of Suncokret&Rani Mraz)with her band Bistrik Orchestra,playing kind of  folk w/mild prog influences mostly in instrumentation.It's probably a strech,but I will call it Balkan version of Dead Can Dance.Maybe somebody would consider adding them to the YU-prog list roster.Seyo,what do you think?Anyway,keep on proggin' Weirdamigo and good luck.Regards from Canada.

Wow. Thats quite a praise you gave me , thanks you Smile.
It is truly sad what became of music in the Ex-YU countries, most people don't even regard the rock scene as worthy of their time, truly a depressing sight to behold but as we all know, rock will never die. I am surprised that you found a Suncokret album, I've been looking for one for a couple of years now. A fantastic band that I will have to review sooner or later. If you are still on the lookout for albums of the 70's and 80's I would suggest that you try "Croatia Records" the next time you come to visit, they are what's left of the great Yugoslav record label "Yugoton".
Regards from Serbia Smile



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2010 at 14:58
Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

Ahh, Seyo!  Hug
 
Your reviews have helped me sort through these difficult compilations and albums, most recently Korni Grupa and Indexi.  Many many many thanks!  (And your posting the yurock blogspot link has been most helpful as well!)
 
Weirdamigo, this blog is wonderful!  The band entries you've posted so far have been especially good.  Keep up the great work!  Long live Yugo Prog!  (And Eastern European prog in general!)


Thanks Todd! I am glad to hear that my work was not in vain... Still, there are lots of obscure but good music from exYU to discover... Cheers! Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2010 at 12:47
Great job so far, Weirdamigo.Let the proggers all over the world hear some of the goods produced in our beloved Yugoslavia during golden times.I was visiting Bosnia&Serbia this past may and was deeply disappointed by state of musical affairs over there.Amount of "neo-turbo-folk" content on radio and TV stations is morbidly inadequate.I had hard time finding any quality(not pirate)cd's in Bosnia.Belgrade(Serbia)offered  little more,so I scored "Kongres rock majstora"(finally on cd),a great compilation of 16 songs from 4 best guitarists in YU rock of mid 70's,RM Tocak's first album,Suncokret's "Moje bube" and several used lp's(Smak,Boomerang,Time).Best new(at least to my ears)artist I found interesting was Biljana Krstic(formerly of Suncokret&Rani Mraz)with her band Bistrik Orchestra,playing kind of  folk w/mild prog influences mostly in instrumentation.It's probably a strech,but I will call it Balkan version of Dead Can Dance.Maybe somebody would consider adding them to the YU-prog list roster.Seyo,what do you think?Anyway,keep on proggin' Weirdamigo and good luck.Regards from Canada.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2010 at 11:46
Ahh, Seyo!  Hug
 
Your reviews have helped me sort through these difficult compilations and albums, most recently Korni Grupa and Indexi.  Many many many thanks!  (And your posting the yurock blogspot link has been most helpful as well!)
 
Weirdamigo, this blog is wonderful!  The band entries you've posted so far have been especially good.  Keep up the great work!  Long live Yugo Prog!  (And Eastern European prog in general!)
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