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overmatik 
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 Posted: March 29 2011 at 14:26 |
David Gilmour has much better and classic solos. But then again, to some people George Harrison is better than David, so... 
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Posted: March 27 2011 at 21:39 |
^ well he was the ultimate low-riding guitar player, he had to thrust his pelvis so he could play the thing 
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Posted: March 27 2011 at 21:32 |
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David Gilmour for me. I've never really got into jimmy page's style of playing, and, um, I really really have no penchant for his pelvic thrust thing...
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Posted: March 27 2011 at 18:00 |
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david gilmour all the way. i like jimmy page but he doesn't have the fell that Gilmore dose. when ever i here Dave play i fell like im listening to the gods. jimmy page doesn't have that effect on me he just doesn't have the fell Gilmore dose
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Posted: March 27 2011 at 11:56 |
I like them both equally, but for the sake of the vote..
I vote Gilmore seeing i listen to Floyd more than Zep
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Posted: March 27 2011 at 09:08 |
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Gilmour's Best Solo Trumps Pages Best....... Dogs (My favorite or Confortably Numb) are both better that stairway to heaven or maybe when the levee breaks
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Posted: March 27 2011 at 08:51 |
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I chose David Gilmour for this poll. Page is faster, and is in his element in the studio; however, Page is quite sloppy playing live, and at times cannot reproduce the guitar sounds he created while recording. Meanwhile, Gilmour was brilliant each of the four times I saw Floyd in concert.
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Mr.GizaRainbow
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Posted: March 27 2011 at 08:27 |
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Love gilmour's solo's with pink floyd so he has my vote, jimmy is genius too but not as much as david
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Posted: June 03 2010 at 08:42 |
 a great analysis. I would avoid comparing players with a so different approach to their instrument. We can't compare Page and Gilmour to Al di Meola, Andres Segovia or Stanley Jordan. We can appreciate their genres more or less, but a comparison can be done for example between Gilmour and Latimer, or Peter Green. Page can go with Blackmore and so on, I think.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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TODDLER
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Posted: June 03 2010 at 08:36 |
Wow!....There are so many viewpoints from a large group of people on P.A. All different age groups of music fans, musicians and those who write reviews. It's amazing and challenging! I suppose that I am pure wax museum mentality because I enjoyed Jimmy Page with the Yardbirds more then Zep. However, I really love Jimmy Page's guitar work on the Zeppelin debut and 3 and 4. 'The Battle Of Evermore" is really diverse and truly interesting on Page's behalf.
There are so many outstanding guitarists from the 60's and 70's like Johnny Winter, Mike Bloomfield, Peter Green etc, and I rarely hear mention of their levels or I should say their true capabilities. Paul Kossoff from Free was a bit like Gilmour and Page combining a style of both and being from that British Blues Boom era, I consider him special.
My personal observation of Page is the fact that he played various Les Paul lines.....and long extensive technical lines which Page adapted to the writing style of Zep. Page also tutored Jeff Beck and Beck played many of Les Paul's lines as well. On the technical side, Page was a little monster , playing notes starting at the 14th or 12th fret through a passage that led down to the 1st fret and back up again. He was really crazy!
David Gilmour plays some beautiful slide on Meddle. He is an atmospheric kind of player adding blues styles from the Mississippi Delta but, adapting it to that Space Rock Pink Floyd sound. He opens up a lot of chords ....having that B and E1st string open while producing a melodic atmosphere. His leads were always clean and inspiring.
But to compare Page and Gilmour to each other?.......I don't know but, it doesn't feel logical and the quarter placed in the vending machine does not work. Maybe Page and Beck would be more interesting to me?
During improv soloing from both on electric guitar........Dave Gilmour applies more string bending and while playing notes in a more slower fashion then Page, produces a unique sound and style. Page is sometimes all over the place producing the same effect as Gilmour at a fast pace. The irony of course is the fact that Gilmour stated many timnes how he felt strange replacing Syd Barrett and how he felt uncomfortable even when Pink Floyd toured as a 5 piece. But yet....it is David Gilmour who produces the most splendid versions of Syd Barrett's songs.......Astronomy Domine from Pulse...or his performance on DVD of "Dominoes".....Roger Waters doesn't seem to touch this material but, Gilmour gives it a re-birth with his beautiful guitar playing and his melodic singing voice to boot!
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Posted: June 03 2010 at 08:33 |
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I find amazing that 1 person on 3 is so rock-oriented. Jimmy Page has contributed to give Metal a birth and was a great guitarist, but I don't see how he can compared to Sir David. Neither the solo on Stairway to Heaven can compete with Comfortably numb. This doesn't mean that I wouldn't sell a kidney to be able to play like Jimmy...
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Posted: June 02 2010 at 02:13 |
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I prefer David Gilmore, just because. Thank you
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Posted: June 02 2010 at 00:30 |
 Captain Clutch wrote:
a) you're incorrect about Floyd being mainly a guitar-based band. This was only true on Their first 2 albums and on The Wall (to a lesser extent)
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Come on Wish you were here is guitar based too, I mean 40% of the album is guitar solo and 20% is awesome 12 -string acoustic strumming... And what about animals, the song Dog contain 5 solos and an awesome chord pattern and the Sheep ending riff is magic...
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Posted: May 29 2010 at 23:12 |
Alberto Muñoz wrote:
Captain Clutch wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
Captain Clutch wrote:
Each of them was the best man for the job they did, but let's face it guys: Led Zep is a band that is far more based on the guitar, and therefore Page plays a more significant role in his band
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Not really, it's based far more on distorted guitar, is what I would say. Yes, keyboards have very little role to play in Led Zep compared to Floyd, but Gilmour was still the most important link in Floyd and Floyd were mainly a guitar based band too. Anyway, my vote goes to Gilmour. I like Page the arranger but Page the guitarist, both riffs and solos wise, doesn't do much for me, would rather Iommi and Blackmore respectively. I am not nearly as fond of the Comfortably Numb solo as many Floyd fans seem to be. I prefer his output from Meddle through to Dark Side.
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a) you're incorrect about Floyd being mainly a guitar-based band. This was only true on Their first 2 albums and on The Wall (to a lesser extent)
b) David Gilmore did barely any song writing for Floyd, and Jimmy Page wrote EVERYTHING for Zep
Gilmore's role is more subtle and minimalist.
Nobody could possibly replace what Page did for LZ
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You referring to David Gilmore of AkaMoon?
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yyyyyyyyyyyyyyes? No, I'm simply illiterate
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: May 29 2010 at 21:29 |
Atavachron wrote:
CinemaZebra wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
CinemaZebra wrote:
The one who didn't steal any riffs.
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As for Page's "stealing", he and Zeppelin contributed to the blues more than they stole from it. |
I don't see how that justifies it. If it weren't for Page's stealing, Led Zeppelin wouldn't even get the opportunity to "contribute" to the blues in the first place.
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They have nothing to justify: the very basis of all bluesrock is the
black artists in the US of the 40s and 50s, and all the important
bluesrock/heavy blues artists took from that legacy - Cream, Blue
Cheer, Santana, the Stones, Johnny Winter, the Doors, Sabbath, you name
it, and most of the riffs, phrasing and lyrical relation are directly
traceable to the electric Blues of the 20th century. I'm not just
talking influence either, but direct usage of material that was often unknown
to most or was no longer available. Further, Zeppelin weren't the only
ones to not properly credit artists, they just were too
blatant and successful for it to slip by.
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And the trade mark sound that he always archive in live concerts, and the use of theramin.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: May 29 2010 at 21:28 |
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I like both, Gilmour play is simply superb, he have a trademark tone that is very distinguible of other guitarrist and that sensation of despair in his solos and his guitar licks in mny floyd songs.
I vote Page.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: May 29 2010 at 21:10 |
Captain Clutch wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
Captain Clutch wrote:
Each of them was the best man for the job they did, but let's face it guys: Led Zep is a band that is far more based on the guitar, and therefore Page plays a more significant role in his band
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Not really, it's based far more on distorted guitar, is what I would say. Yes, keyboards have very little role to play in Led Zep compared to Floyd, but Gilmour was still the most important link in Floyd and Floyd were mainly a guitar based band too. Anyway, my vote goes to Gilmour. I like Page the arranger but Page the guitarist, both riffs and solos wise, doesn't do much for me, would rather Iommi and Blackmore respectively. I am not nearly as fond of the Comfortably Numb solo as many Floyd fans seem to be. I prefer his output from Meddle through to Dark Side.
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a) you're incorrect about Floyd being mainly a guitar-based band. This was only true on Their first 2 albums and on The Wall (to a lesser extent)
b) David Gilmore did barely any song writing for Floyd, and Jimmy Page wrote EVERYTHING for Zep
Gilmore's role is more subtle and minimalist.
Nobody could possibly replace what Page did for LZ
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You referring to David Gilmore of AkaMoon?
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: May 29 2010 at 19:03 |
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
Terrible survey ... and one that really distorts things a lot.
Jimmy deserves a lot more credit for his work than a lot of guitarists out there, specially when you consider that he is a TRUE musician and does KNOW music very well ... and you can see this in the film "It's Gonna Get Loud" ... and in case you didn't see it ... check this out ... you know who the man up on him was? And guess who brought this guitarist into the Yardbirds?
G Gomelsky ... who went on to do Aphrodite's Child, Gentle Giant and so many others and is one of the massive fathers of Progressive Music and we should start a ... Hall of Fame for it!
David Gilmour, in creativity and expression is not in my book as important as Jimmy is to the history of rock music with Led Zeppelin. Pink Floyd deserves its name in there, of course, but as a band, not as any single member.
It was Jimmy that helped open the way with a few other folks, and David is second generation by comparison and to me not even as good as Mr. Gurley in Big Brother and the Holding Company, who pretty much is the father of the blowout guitar bomb! And if you dont sit through Ball and Chain ... you don't like a guitar having a duet with a voice!
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Terrible survey? I simply asked people who they like more. Is there any reason you had to dig so deeply into this? It's a simple asking of peoples opinion, nothing more.
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Posted: May 28 2010 at 22:00 |
Captain Clutch wrote:
a) you're incorrect about Floyd being mainly a guitar-based band. This was only true on Their first 2 albums and on The Wall (to a lesser extent) |
Hardly. Meddle through to Animals, apart from Wall of course, all have Gilmour playing a very important role. Sure, Wright gets a lot of time in too, but Gilmour's solos are more often than not the centerpiece of their songs and most of their songs revolve around guitar chords/riffs (as opposed to Banks propelling Genesis songs with keyboard chords). In fact, one reason why Floyd's progginess may often be disputed is building a song around guitar riffs and a solo in the middle is a typical rock structure.
Captain Clutch wrote:
b) David Gilmore did barely any song writing for Floyd, and Jimmy Page wrote EVERYTHING for Zep
Gilmore's role is more subtle and minimalist.
Nobody could possibly replace what Page did for LZ |
He did more than barely write songs  but there's no doubt about that Floyd became more and more a Waters enterprise. However, I thought the question was on their role as players and not songwriters? Because as composer, Page certainly was way more important for Zep than Gilmour for Floyd. You said Zep is a guitar based band and therefore he plays a far more important role in the band, so I interpreted likewise.
Edited by rogerthat - May 28 2010 at 22:00
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Posted: May 28 2010 at 20:35 |
 You didn't offend me, it's ok.
BTW: my dad, who is 53, still loves Obscured by Clouds 
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David Gilmour vs. Jimmy Page
Obscured by Clouds is my favorite Floyd album, and that song is superb!
I truly did not mean to offend anyone. I really thought it was a good example of what I was saying. I am glad you are loving it! When you are 51, if you don't love it anymore, then put flowers on my grave. But if you do, well then, I guess you'll just have to piss on it!