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Joined: May 29 2006
Location: United States
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Posted: May 18 2010 at 09:29
There's no such thing as objectivity when it comes to music. It all depends on what you like. Personally, I read all the negative reviews first before I rush out and buy an album. They usually give me a better idea of whether I will like an album or not. Fie star reviews generally don't offer as much useful information, IMHO.
Joined: July 02 2008
Location: Australia
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Posted: May 18 2010 at 05:38
Pain of salvation is metal if you listen to Beyond the pale, Fandango and a lot of scarsick, this is metal but they are experimental and they enjoy the symphonic side of music. If you watch their DVD Ending Themes it s evident they are metal but like Opeth they wont be pigeonholed into one genre and thats why i like them among millions of others.
Reviews are bAsed on personal opinion and theres always a bias but if 50 people think its excellent you can believe that majority.
Joined: October 22 2005
Location: elsewhere
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Posted: May 18 2010 at 04:54
I totally agree. It's insane that practically any member is allowed to post a review with potentially false information on the quality of the album in question. I personally don't think that a site like this that is filled with subjective opinions and no facts has much credibility at all. Oh when will you all see that all those reviews are nothing but lies, nothing but filthy LIES!!!
Joined: November 08 2008
Location: Sweden
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Posted: May 18 2010 at 03:10
The PA database is simply limited to assigning genres to artists - so all the albums of an artists are labelled with the same genre, regardless of how the style of the artist changes over time.
Joined: March 02 2009
Location: Australia
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Posted: May 18 2010 at 02:38
No problem!
My two favourite albums of the year so far are Kayo Dot's Coyote (an avant-jazz album) and Alcest's Ecailles De Lune, a metal album.
I guess if you either like metal, and don't mind some black metal vocals, the Alcest album is a great one. Kayo Dot's Coyote is good if you like avant, or jazz in general
Hi Joe.Thanks for your fast reply. I Hope I'm not being misunderstood. I respect everybody's opinion and taste. My point is that the PA community should try to be more objective when it comes to writing reviews and rating albums, because it can mislead some people to go and spend their hard-earned money on an album which would disappoint them.
By the way, do you have any suggestions on new releases?
Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
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Posted: May 18 2010 at 02:18
Road Salt One isn't progressive metal, agreed, but the significant majority of PoS's discography is, which is why the band is categorized as progressive metal.
Joined: March 02 2009
Location: Australia
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Points: 19643
Posted: May 18 2010 at 02:18
Yeah, difference in opinion is a big reason for that. Some people hate what you love and love what you hate; that's just how it is.
As far as PoS's new one goes, I haven't heard it yet, although bands are put into subgenres here, not albums, so prog metal makes sense for PoS considering the main amount of their output is prog metal.
Hope that clears those two up, and welcome to the site! -Joel
Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
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Points: 65606
Posted: May 18 2010 at 02:15
understand PA is a work in progress (pun intended) and is a true collaboration among members, some love certain genres and come here mostly for a particular style and may rate certain albums highly
Hi guys. I'm Babak from Tehran,Iran. I must say,I feel honored to be among fellow prog-lovers. I'm a professional musician (bass player), although I play mostly pop music to make a living.
I've been following PA for a long time and have been enjoying it without feeling the need to post a comment or write a review. But the reason I decided to become a memeber, was PA's review and rating of an album called "After all" by the French band "Eye 2 Eye". This albums is among PA's best albums of 2009. So I decided to get this album,and believe me, it was really difficult. After listening to this albums,I have no choice but to say that it is one of the worst neo-prog albums of 2009 or maybe the last decade!
The songs and the arrangements are mediocre and the guitar player shows signs of narcissism, because he thinks he has to show off from the begining to the end of each song, unfortunately without having the ability to play anything interesting. After all, they sound like a high school band to me.
So, my question is, how come a band like this gets such promotion and excellent reviews in the PA?
And another thing; how on earth can you brand Pain Of Salvation's latest masterpiece "The Road Salt One" as progressive metal. Don't get me wrong; I like prog-metal, but this album has nothing to do with it.
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