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JJLehto 
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Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
 Posted: July 02 2008 at 13:25 |
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At least that explains why the site has been sooo slow.
What an a**hole....... |
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Queen By-Tor
Special Collaborator 
Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 13 2006 Location: Xanadu Status: Offline Points: 16111 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 13:15 |
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Huge amounts of kudos is due to the guys in the background keeping this excellent site up and running
Agreed.  [Edit] - but let's just hope these attacks die down soon, or else a witch hunt may be in order  Edited by King By-Tor - July 02 2008 at 13:15 |
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Guzzman
Forum Senior Member 
Joined: August 21 2004 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 3563 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 11:30 |
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and would like to add: and not only in times under attack! Thanks a million, guys, be assured that your work is appreciated! |
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"We've got to get in to get out"
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Statutory-Mike
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 15 2008 Location: Long Island Status: Offline Points: 3737 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 11:25 |
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Maybe Harry has an evil twin who wants to destroy his life?
Thanks m@x and everyone else helping keep the site up
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Chicapah
Prog Reviewer
Joined: February 14 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8238 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 10:52 |
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I knew you guys were on it and that you'd defeat the evil sprites responsible. Great job!
(Probably some disgruntled Back Street Boys fans...)
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"Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain
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Padraic
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 10:51 |
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I figured it was an attack. Has to be one of the longest outages I've experienced, though.
ProgArchives will never die! Bwahaha  |
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The Pessimist
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 13 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3834 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 10:35 |
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Pah! They're just jealous because we found good music before they did  |
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg |
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Easy Livin
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 10:33 |
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It seems these sort of attacks are pretty random, and do not usually signify we are a chosen target.
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jimmy_row
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 11 2007 Location: Hibernation Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 10:30 |
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Keep up it.
 I was able to log in today which is more than I could last night...so we're seeing improvements. Mucho kudos to M@x for protecting the site even while on his travels
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Mikerinos
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Planet Gong Status: Offline Points: 8890 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 09:53 |
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I think PunkArchives is taking vengeance at Hammill getting added as "punk-related" there.
 Anyway, good luck, hopefully this can get resolved but personally I don't get how or why anybody would attack prog websites of all places. I wonder if it's the same person/group as before? Edited by Bluesaga - July 02 2008 at 09:53 |
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JayDee
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member Joined: September 07 2005 Location: Elysian Fields Status: Offline Points: 10063 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 09:52 |
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Keep up the good work M@x and company.
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npjnpj
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 09:52 |
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Perhaps Brittney Spears, Justin Timberlake, and Simon Cowell have invested some of their cash in a shady IT consultancy company?
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The Pessimist
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 13 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3834 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 09:43 |
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Two things:
First of all, why the hell would anyone want to attack this site in the first place? It's just an innocent place where proggers unite and share interests, review albums etc etc... it's not like we're hurting or insulting anyone is it? Second of all, the people that are attacking us really need to get some friends, some action and maybe even a better hobby than using the internet for bad. Thanks again to our guardian angel admins also for keeping this site running smoothly, very much appreciated over here Also, the admins on PA are way smarter than these cheesedick internet terrorists. i doubt anything will happen to PA. |
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg |
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tszirmay
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 17 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 6673 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 09:25 |
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With Hackett's Every Day blaring in the background, I must remind everyone that my daily routine involves remembering French philosopher JJ Rousseau's comment " The more I analyze the human race, the more I love my dog!" . Losers are not K-9s , so what do you really expect, seemingly there are some low-grade mini-PC terrorists out there who get off on sabotage, since nothing else will! No matter the PA Defence Forces will overcome . Now if we could only strike back!
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 06:42 |
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...yes and that too... but the intent is still for gain not to bring down the site.
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What?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 06:35 |
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Excellent Max! Things seem to be running smoother. Let's hope these issues stay away from now on.
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21615 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 06:12 |
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That's one possibility ... but sql injection can also be used to add to or modify the database. For example, hackers might try to add javascript calls to all the reviews stored in the database ... then when visitors view PA pages which contain reviews, that javascript might look for vulnerabilies in their browsers and try to install spyware or make the computer part of a bot net. |
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Sean Trane
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Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20436 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 06:04 |
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M@X, this has happened to ProgGnosis as well.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Dean
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 04:51 |
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I sure the attack was purely in the interests of monetary gain (SQL Injection is used to get information out of the database) - but like many of these attacks - it failed in its original purpose because it broke the site.
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What?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21615 |
Posted: July 02 2008 at 04:42 |
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I don't know the server software, but it seems like the most important thing is to recognize script requests *before* they hit the database layer. Of course if there are simply too many script requests for forum pages which don't submit any malicious information, it's simply a denial of service attack which you can only prevent by blocking the offending IP addresses. And if the attack is launch from arbitrary, bot-controlled computers then there really isn't much that can be done.
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