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N Ellingworth
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 17 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1324 |
Posted: October 08 2008 at 07:31 |
Well the neck has arrived much faster than I expected it to, nice one Warmoth.
It's a little bit darker that the photos from the Warmoth site suggested but that's actually a good thing in my opinion. I'm very happy to report that it fits the body perfectly, all I've had to do to the body is sand away some excess finish inside the pocket, unfortunately however the bolt holes on the body and neck don't match up so I've filled the holes on the neck and I'm going to leave that overnight to cure. I should be able to get everything bar the final set up finished quite quickly but I'm not going to rush it. The first job I'm going to tackle is fitting the Wilkinson bridge which could be an interesting experience. After that's done I'll probably fit the pickguard and jack socket. Then I'll move on to the neck and get the tuners and string retainer fitted. Then the final job should be re drilling the neck and getting it fitted. Hopefully I should finaly have a playable guitar fairly soon. Here's a pic of the neck I appologise for the poor quality of the photo my camera is playing up at the moment and I'm really struggling to get a decent photo from it. |
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: October 01 2008 at 05:39 |
a friend of a friend has just built this rather sexy bass:
see more here: Moon Base Alpha Edited by Dean - October 01 2008 at 05:43 |
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N Ellingworth
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 17 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1324 |
Posted: September 30 2008 at 06:05 |
I've finally ordered the neck, it's one of Warmoth's showcase items and
when I saw it I just had to own it. It'll be fitted with stainless
steel 6105 frets and a graphite nut by Warmoth.
The neck is made entirely from Pau Ferro and in my opinion is a thing of beauty. Hopefully it won't take too long to arrive. I'm really looking forward to finally finishing this project. |
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A B Negative
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 02 2006 Location: Methil Republic Status: Offline Points: 1594 |
Posted: August 16 2008 at 10:21 |
I have an ebony board on one of my strats and to me it feels similar to a lacquered maple board.
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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mr70s
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 21 2008 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 121 |
Posted: August 15 2008 at 18:33 |
I don't think anything can come close to Brazilian rosewood for that smooth, waxy feel that makes string bending a pleasure. I think that the species has been almost wiped out unfortunately. To me, ebony seems to exhibit drag when using vibrato, although it's certainly harder wearing, and does give (to my ears), an articulate quality to the sound whether clean or distorted. The combination of a maple neck with ebony fretboard gives great clarity to a heavily distorted sound.
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Trademark
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 21 2006 Location: oHIo Status: Offline Points: 1009 |
Posted: August 15 2008 at 11:24 |
Pau Ferro feels almost identical to rosewood. They are genetic cousins after all. It tends to be a bit drier (less natural oil) and so some say it feels a bit "faster" to the touch. I almost always add a fretboard oil to protect the wood and so the difference is essentially lost on me. Pau Ferro does tend to be lighter in color (often a sort of dusty dark mustard color so it might not look as good as you want with that body. A little fretboard oil will darken it some, but not to a real rosewood color.
Ebony, on the other hand, really does have quite a different feel. It is harder, denser and smoother than rosewood and so it does feel faster to the touch. A lot of the old Jackson, Ibanez and Kramer "Shred Machines of the 80's had ebony boards. If you're into that you'll probably like ebony. It is tougher than rosewood or maple so you won't wear the playing grooves into it anytime soon either. You should expect to pay about 20%- 30% more for a re-fret though. Ebony likes to chip and split so fret removal must be done more slowly and carefully and little repairs using superglue and/or epoxy are common making the job take longer. I wouldn't let a fact like that over-ride playability, but it is nice to know in advance. |
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N Ellingworth
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 17 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1324 |
Posted: August 15 2008 at 02:48 |
Yeah I've been thinking about a dark fretboard wood, at the moment I'm torn between Ebony, Pau Ferro or Rosewood, out of those 3 I've only ever played a Rosewood fretboard so I'd really like to try Ebony or Pau Ferro.
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Trademark
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 21 2006 Location: oHIo Status: Offline Points: 1009 |
Posted: August 14 2008 at 19:05 |
Roye Albrighton (for whom I originally built that body) asked for a flame maple/rosewood neck with no inlay and a traditional Fender shape for the headstock. Roye got busy with touring before the neck was completely finished and sort of lost interest in getting it all done. It did look good without the inlay dots though (side dots only). That body color just cries out for a nice dark rosewood fretboard. Roy wanted a black pickguard and gold hardware with it. i think the parts Nick used look better than the mock-up I did with the other parts. Nice job Nick!
Edited by Trademark - August 14 2008 at 19:06 |
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mr70s
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 21 2008 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 121 |
Posted: August 14 2008 at 16:32 |
Why the resistance to a 'normal' Strat neck ?
Just thinking, the 50's style deep V one piece Strat neck can hardly be called normal ! I think it's the best for tone, although you do have to adapt your left hand to suit. It encourages thumb over the top playing. I fitted mine with jumbo frets, and it has a fairly low action. The fretboard radius is a relatively small 7.25 inch, so you will never get a super low shredding action as notes would choke when bending.
To be honest, that classy body needs a classy neck, and I would definitely go with one of the standard neck
options.
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N Ellingworth
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 17 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1324 |
Posted: August 14 2008 at 12:02 |
A small update for everyone, in a few weeks I should be in a position to finally order the neck to complete this project, I'm still not sure exactly what woods, fret size etc that I'm going to go for but I'm definitely going to be getting a neck that's not normal on a strat. I would have ordered the neck earlier but I've had a few financial issues in the past couple of months.
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E-Dub
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Posted: August 13 2008 at 21:37 |
Cripes! I admire anybody who can craft a guitar...especially one as beautiful as this (partial to Strats myself).
Nice, nice work!!!! E |
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mr70s
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 21 2008 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 121 |
Posted: August 13 2008 at 20:01 |
Very nice !
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Statutory-Mike
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 15 2008 Location: Long Island Status: Offline Points: 3737 |
Posted: June 24 2008 at 12:14 |
It looks great
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N Ellingworth
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 17 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1324 |
Posted: June 24 2008 at 10:07 |
Has it really been 2 months since I last updated this thread? Anyway I'm glad to say that I finally have the new body that I bought from Trademark, and it's a really nice one too.
Now I just need to wait for my university to give me the bursary they owe me and I can order the neck. |
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N Ellingworth
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Posted: April 30 2008 at 03:36 |
The reason I'm going for the 6150s (although I will consider the 6105s) is that I prefer the feel of Gibson style frets, father than the traditional Fender style. String bending I don't really tend to do much of so as long as small bends are easy I'm not really bothered, plus I'm using a Wilkinson trem so for larger changes in pitch I've got that.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 30 2008 at 02:49 |
^ agreed. Tall frets also make bending strings much easier if you use a very low action, they're essentially a less extreme version of scalloped fretboards.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: April 30 2008 at 02:46 |
It's not that simple in all cases. You have to take into account fretsize and fretboard radius as to how low your action can go and how much pressure you need to put on the strings to depress them.
Having taller frets forces you to develop a lighter touch as to not push the strings out of correct intonation as you play them, so you learn to depress more lightly on the strings. You can have a guitar with a 16 inch radius, which allows an extremely low action, but the fact is you will be able to play faster on a guitar with a 16 inch radius with tall frets than a 16inch radius axe that has small frets, purely because your fingers are touching less wood each time, and this is not really related to the action of the guitar anyway. Ultimately the easiest action would be achieved by the largest radius you can get and easier playability aided by bigger frets.
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rileydog22
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Posted: April 29 2008 at 23:32 |
^Wouldn't you be able to get the same effect by lowering the action of the guitar?
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: April 29 2008 at 22:56 |
That's a pretty good choice there, especially the graphite nut, those last so long
If you haven't already made the definite choice of the neck, I can recommend to you 6105 frets. They are taller and slightly narrower than 6150s, and the taller the frets you have the less pressure you have to put on the strings to hold them down and after a while you play more relaxed, faster, cleaner, and plus better vibrato control.
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N Ellingworth
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 17 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1324 |
Posted: April 28 2008 at 13:00 |
It's 'only' Indian Rosewood which is comparatively cheap (for an exotic wood), if it were all Brazilian Rosewood then it would be very expensive, and even if I could afford a Brazilian Rosewood neck Warmoth don't export them.
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