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Points: 5851 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2007 at 04:25
Another two thread focused in live albums (and not related with this!!!) are these (both by my friend Ely78):

Prog live album appreciation thread

The RPI (and related) live reviews special

Well... This is the time of my list:

1) PFM "Live In USA [AKA Cook]": I didn't review this album. But I think that little live album are at this level.

2) DEEP PURPLE: "Made In Japan": Another album that I didn't review. In my opinion a perfect live.

3) RAINBOW: "On Stage": see "Made In Japan"

4) AMAZING BLONDEL: "A  Foreign Field That Is Forever England": One of the more exciting and involving live.

5) KEVIN AYERS/ JOHN CALE/ ENO/ NICO: "June 1, 1974": Great songs for great party.

6) IRON BUTTERFLY: "Live": Because this live is a magical live album. Other words are wasteds

7) AL DI MEOLA, JOHN MCLAUGHLIN, PACO DE LUCIA: "Friday Night In San Francisco": Great, Great, Great. Only 5 songs but... Torrids!!!

8) ANDREA PARODI & AL DI MEOLA: "Midsummer Night In Sardinia-Armentos": A Great voice and a gret guitar for one of the more exciting live of all time. This live is simply amazing.

9) BIGLIETTO PER L'INFERNO: "Live 1974": Bootleg sound quality for this immense live album. But extremely good.

10) JOHN LENNON AND THE PLASTIC ONO BAND: "Sweet Toronto (DVD)": Not in PA... But very Prog live album. In my opinion is more than a document.


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Prog live albums:
 
1. King Crimson - Earthbond . Even with pure sound you can hear the energy and perfection of the band. Boz-Mel Colins-Walace-Frip is fantastic for live performances
 
2. Pink Floyd - Pompeii . The DVD gives you new dimension of Floyds music and taste of brilliance without any special effects.
 
3. Mahavishnu orchestra - From nothigness to eternity. Glimpse of jazz/ rock perfection
 
4. Yes - Symhonic DVD. Like old wine
 
5. Zappa - Roxy and elsewhere.
 
6. Deep purple - Made in Japan . This is not prog but pure rock album.
 
7. ELP - Welcome back
 
8. VDGG - Vital
 
9. Gentle giant - Giant on the box. Masters at work
 
10. Focus - Live at rainbow
 
 
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About Yes doing overdubs, they did, but not many. I have listened to several bootlegs from their shows, and the sound is really like on the live albums. Anyone interested in hearing Yes bootlegs, private message me.

The only one that probably suffered from excess of overdubs is Keys to Ascension, but  I've got no bootleg of this one. Anyway, a friend of mine listened to one, and says it is really overdubbed, because the band hadn't been plaing these songs for a long time, so theit performances were full of flaws.
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Yesshows (I prefer it than Yessongs)

Welcome Back My Friends (extended versions, and so well extended!)

Pictures at an exhibition (amazing classical butchery)

Out of the blue (love this recent album by Rick Wakeman, it encompases some of his best work and features a 15 minutes version of Journey much better than the orginal)

A Live Record (Camel with a great set-list. The new version with bonus tracks is even better, with songs from Rain Dances and The White Rider)

Live at the Rainbow (Focus sounds better live, IMO. Hocus Pocus is a killer!)

Epitaph (I have always preferred the early King Crimson, and this album shows why. The band is really united and Lake's voice is unbeliavable)

Live in Europe (TransAtlantic are a great live band. In Duel With The Devil musicianship is unsurpassable)

Genesis Archives part 1 (Supper's Ready, Th Lamb, need I say more?)

Live at Pompeii (a great DVD, with both astonishing music and images)
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Enough said from this live-album-detractor that it's me...Tongue
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I have nothing against studio records; however, my preferred albums are live albums. sadly many so-called "live albums" are not live albums at all; an example is "Yessongs". only the drum tracks are the original live; the rest have been tampered with (source: Tibor Kneif, Sachlexikon der Rockmusik)
 
You say!!!!!! YESSONGS is not a live album  AT ALL!   
 
C'MON !!!WackoWacko WackoWhen was the last time you listened to it? 
Whatever overdubs they may have add, you cannot be taken seriously with affirmation like that!  
THAT'S LIVE!! IT PLAYS LIVE !! IT SOUNDS LIVE!! IT SMELLS LIVE!!!Tongue
 
Don't read the book of some  guy who thinks it's all fake, just listen to it and ..ENJOY it!!Wink
 

"Yessongs" is an album that was overdubbed in the studio. so was Curved Air's Live album too, by the way. and those are just two examples. it is not I who says this; I cited my source. and Tibor Kneif is a man who knows what he is talking about.
It is common practice for many bands to overdub certain live mistakes, but the question is justified how" live" such an overdubbed album really is.
if you don't believe that Yes would ever do that, do a Google search
 
Ok, Yes played live, they took the recordings to the studio and buffed out some bad stuff, c'mon, there are no acoustics on and you and I, the quintisential Yes acoustic song.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

Get the Great Deceiver from Fripp's web site, DGM, Raff. It is WAY less expensive than the price on amazon, and it takes less time to get to you. Hang on, you started the KC fan central and you haven't even got their finest live hour? For shame madam Wink


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Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

Get the Great Deceiver from Fripp's web site, DGM, Raff. It is WAY less expensive than the price on amazon, and it takes less time to get to you. Hang on, you started the KC fan central and you haven't even got their finest live hour? For shame madam Wink


LOL she is a bad girl...
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Get the Great Deceiver from Fripp's web site, DGM, Raff. It is WAY less expensive than the price on amazon, and it takes less time to get to you. Hang on, you started the KC fan central and you haven't even got their finest live hour? For shame madam Wink
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I followed his advice, and got it... I won't say it's become my favourite too, but it's undoubtedly a masterpiece of rock.

As to my own personal Top 10 of live albums, this time I'll have to mention some of my favourites in no particular order... Too lazy to try to draw up a real list tonight!LOL

- USA, "The Night Watch" and "Absent Lovers" - KC (I intend to get "The Great Deceiver" ASAP)
- "Welcome Back My Friends..." - ELP
- "Live at Pompeii" - Pink Floyd
- "Exit.... Stage Left" and "Different Stages" - Rush
- "Made in Japan" - Deep Purple
- "On Stage" - Rainbow
- "The Song Remains the Same" - Led Zeppelin
- "Live at Carnegie Hall" - Renaissance
- "On Your Feet or on Your Knees" and "ET Live" - Blue Oyster Cult
- "Bursting Out" - Jethro Tull
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Points: 2492 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2007 at 20:26
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Zargus Zargus wrote:

Well after looking trough my CD collection this is what i came up with and dont get mad caus its far from 100% prog, and im probobly missing out some great stuff and there is lots of great live albums i still need to get..
 
1. The Who - Live at Leeds
2. Neil Young - Rust never sleeps
3. The Clash - From here to eternity
4. Tangerine Dream - Ricochet
5. Soft Machine - Grides
6. ELP - Welcome back my friends........
7. Rick Wakeman - Journey to the centre of the earth
8. Yes - Yessongs
9. Genesis - Seconds out
10. Miles Davis - At Fillmore: Live at fillmore east
 
 
 
 


since it is not on there...I assume you don't have it.  Get the only album (other than the James Brown album. 'Live at the Apollo') that may rank in the same class as Live at Leads in the ranks of greatest live albums ever.



buy it... and you'll thank me hahahha.


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I've been getting more interested in live album lately, but I'm generally uninterested in livealbums with just solid versions of albumtracks. My favorites of the few I got.

Magma: Live/Hhai
Can: BBC Sessions
Miles Davis: Dark Magus
Magma: Live 74 Loundres
One Shot: Vendredi 13
Damonji: Improg
Area: Are(A)zione
Pure f**king Space: Live at Centerspace
Tangerine Dream: Ricochet
Eric Dolphy. Last Date

Love everything live from the 70's Ive heard by Magma & Can.

(still haven't bought any Gong live, but will)
Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
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Prog releases, in no particular reason:
 
Gong - Live Etc.
Steve Hillage - Live Herald
Focus - At the Rainbow
Traffic - Welcome to the Canteen
Yes - Yesshows (I always have liked it best than Yessongs)
Genesis - Seconds Out
Kansas - Two for the Show
Rush - Exit Stage Left
King Crimson - The Great Deceiver
Van Der Graaf - Vital
 
Non-prog
 
The Who - Live at Leeds
The Rolling Stones - Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Wishbone Ash - Live Dates
Neil Young - Live at Massey Hall 1971
The Band - Rock of Ages
Bob Dylan - Live 1966
Slade - Alive!
Deep Purple - Made in Japan
The Allman Brothers Band - At Fillmore East
Grateful Dead - Live/Dead
 
 
 
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In no order and these are the ones i remember now and listen often:
 
1. Peter Gabriel - Secret World ( i fell in love with this album ,video and Peter Gabriel after this stunning performance)
2. DFA - Work in Progress (the last live album i discovered and amazed me, superb concert!)
3. Porcupine Tree - Coma Divine (probaly this is my favorite, PTs space era and my favorite songs are played here, i own the 2 CD album which is even better than the single)
4. Pink Floyd - PULSE ( well without Waters but it would be a dream to see these songs together live)
5. Anekdoten - Waking the Dead ( one of my favorite bands, magnific songs and better performances)
6. Tangerine Dream - Ricochet ( 2 songs, but it is an old love, the first TD album that caught my whole attention, simply great)
7. Camel - A Live Record ( excelent first album with great songs choices, and the second album with The Snow Goose provokes goosebumps on me)
8. Renaissance - Live at the Carnegie Hall ( Superb album with Annie in vocals, Ashes are burning is a masterpiece here)
9. Magma - Live Hhai (weird, but it makes me addicted)
10. Rush - Exit...Stage Left (i didnt like Rush until i listen to these album, and mostly because of YYZ, Jacobs Ladder and Xanadu`s performances)
11. Shakti with John Mclaughlin -s/t ( all is bliss, all is bliss)
 
well there are 11, but  who cares...

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Originally posted by Zargus Zargus wrote:

Well after looking trough my CD collection this is what i came up with and dont get mad caus its far from 100% prog, and im probobly missing out some great stuff and there is lots of great live albums i still need to get..
 
1. The Who - Live at Leeds
2. Neil Young - Rust never sleeps
3. The Clash - From here to eternity
4. Tangerine Dream - Ricochet
5. Soft Machine - Grides
6. ELP - Welcome back my friends........
7. Rick Wakeman - Journey to the centre of the earth
8. Yes - Yessongs
9. Genesis - Seconds out
10. Miles Davis - At Fillmore: Live at fillmore east
 
 
 
 


since it is not on there...I assume you don't have it.  Get the only album (other than the James Brown album. 'Live at the Apollo') that may rank in the same class as Live at Leads in the ranks of greatest live albums ever.



buy it... and you'll thank me hahahha.
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^^ About that good point, I consider this:

Studio albums = proves composition's quality.
Live albums = proves musicianship's skills and sometimes creativity.

I love both release incarnations, though Smile


Edited by sircosick - August 17 2007 at 21:33
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Well after looking trough my CD collection this is what i came up with and dont get mad caus its far from 100% prog, and im probobly missing out some great stuff and there is lots of great live albums i still need to get..
 
1. The Who - Live at Leeds
2. Motörhead - No sleep til Hammersmith
3. Hawkwind - Space ritual
4. Tangerine Dream - Ricochet
5. Soft Machine - Grides
6. ELP - Welcome back my friends........
7. Rick Wakeman - Journey to the centre of the earth
8. Yes - Yessongs
9. Genesis - Seconds out
10. Neil Young - Rust never sleeps
 
 
 
 


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In the main....nearly all prog bands were set up for live performances...most hated the studio setting. How come so many have live albums? It is the pinnacle of any band to perform live on stage, and release an albums worth of material....for me studio albums are a waste......gimme live anytime...raw and real talent will shine through.
 
Welcome back
Pictures
Encore
Ricochet
Poland
Royal Albert Hall
Space Ritual 
Works Live
Live Tapes
Pulse
 
That's about all i can think off at this late time.


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IMO the masters of live albums are definitely King Crimson with their fantastic improvs and performance quality. Any of their live discs is worthy enough to give a listen, including bootlegs.....

Specifically speaking, another good ones are Camel - A Live Record, Jethro Tull - Bursting Out, Frank Zappa - Broadway the Hardway / Make a Jazz Noise Here / Best Band you've Ever Heard in your Life / Roxy & Elsewhere.......... Among many others.
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