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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: May 06 2007 at 15:34 | ||
Tony R30, are you an Atlantic Records salesman ?!
But seriously, I have to congratulate you with the most descriptive review I have read about the new Rush album, you even seem to recognize the Mellotron sound !
By the way, it is a bouzouki, not a bazouki, you are confusing bouzouki and bazouka , a Freudian slip for some hidden agression ...?
Anyway, tomorrow I will buy the new Rush album, I even have to after my promise to Tony R30 .... and in fact I am looking forward to give my opinion about Snakes & Arrows as a Rush die-hard since 1976 .
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 06 2007 at 15:19 | ||
^^Call that a review?
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Tony R
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Posted: May 06 2007 at 14:23 | ||
Done. Not a great review by anyone's standards but honest.
I know I like the album having given it a chance (I wasnt over-impressed originally), there is more to life, and Prog, than swirling keyboards and if there is a finer musicians album released this year I'll eat my halo...
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StyLaZyn
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
Posted: May 06 2007 at 12:38 | ||
Good luck with the album and I hope you find, at a bare minimum, some fantastic music, Prog or not. As previously mentioned, keep a keen ear into Lifeson's "rebirth". |
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: May 06 2007 at 05:55 | ||
Thanks Salmacis, good to read these very specific reviews, one of the reviewers I know personally (Martien Koolen also works for Background magazine), it looks like a huge challenge to discover the presence of the unsurpassed Mellotron on the new Rush album . Anyway, I have decided to buy the new Rush album because I have become so curious to it but I am aware that it is way from the Seventies and even Eighties sound.
Dear fellow Rush progheads, let's face one thing: you can have respect for Rush, you can name them great musicians, you can say that they are still progressing but that doesn't mean that the music on Arrows & Snakes is very interesting and it doesn't mean that Rush fans who prefer the 1973-1986 era (like me) are not allowed to conclude that the new Rush album sounds nothing more or less like good melodic
rock., it's too cheap to say that all those fans "are living in the past" or "should wake up" because there's nothing wrong with making music that is based upon The Seventies in the traditional way
Tomorrow I will try to buy Snakes & Arrows (yesterday it was sold out in the 3 record shops I visited ) and very soon I will add my view on the new Rush album, it's one of the mostly reviewed CD's at this moment, Rush is hot and perhaps Tony R30 is willing to give his view on the homepage, I am looking forward to it !
Those good old days ....
... or Rush is still alive and progging?
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salmacis
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Posted: May 06 2007 at 05:16 | ||
Erik, maybe these reviews here might help a bit?
Clean sweep of positive reviews.
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Angelo
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Posted: May 05 2007 at 04:54 | ||
From the April 1992 Kerrang interview: "That started on Power Windows," recalls Alex, "when we were sequencing the tracks and Neil commented that 50 percent of the songs began with an 'M' - 'Marathon,' 'Manhattan Project,' 'Middletown Dreams,' and 'Mystic Rhythms.' It's as innocent as that. It's nothing to do with 'Sesame Street'!" "We throw a lot of silly little things into the credits," shrugs Geddy, "little inside jokes. It's just an immature habit we developed!" |
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StarsongAgeless
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 18 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 176 |
Posted: May 04 2007 at 17:43 | ||
I actually think they did progress... by blending their old and new sounds together. I think that's why it sounds like 'old' Rush to me, even though it definately has hard rock elements. The more I hear this album, the more I'm liking it...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 04 2007 at 07:33 | ||
I'm actually quite pleased with them not trying to make an album like Hemispheres (which is my favorite Rush album) ... they're a different band today, in a different world. I'm quite sure that had they attempted to make such an album, most people who are now disappointed because they didn't would instead accuse them of not "progressing".
Was that a syntactically valid sentence? |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 04 2007 at 07:26 | ||
My point exactly!
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salmacis
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Posted: May 04 2007 at 07:01 | ||
Oh yes, I'd agree that this is not an album in the 'old Rush' mode if that's what you wanted to know, Erik. IMHO, the songwriting is better than in a long while and for me, it is the quality of the songs that counts rather than them doing an epic for the sake of having an epic on the album, but I would also agree that if you weren't really into Counterparts or Vapor Trails you may not like this one that much either, Erik. Give it a listen by all means though...
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 04 2007 at 06:45 | ||
I probably agree with Arcers comments you quoted, but the album is basically a Rock album, in fitting with 90's Rush, albiet witha warmer sound and an earlier Rush "feel". The somg writing itself is Modern Rush.....of that I'm sure.
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: May 04 2007 at 05:50 | ||
I just read the review on the Dutch progrock site Progwereld: the reviewer mentions the 'warm studio sound', the stunning instrumentals including the one with Alex playing very exciting acoustic instruments and for the rest Rush delivers solid rock songs with strong vocals, excellent musicianship, he compares Snakes & Arrows with Counterparts and explaines that the title has to do with yoga and he complaines about the poor cover art Well, I am still in heavy doubts, between Arcer " his recommendation ("Give Snakes and Arrows a listen. The production's lovely, there's some great tunes on there and they sound more relaxed and enjoying the process than they have since maybe Signals.") and Snow Dog his advise ( Avoid! ) ...
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verslibre
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Posted: May 03 2007 at 21:47 | ||
That's too bad...my favorite album by them.
I picked it up for cheap after work on Tuesday, and after avoiding all the pre-release press, fan criticisms and leaked MP3s, it fulfilled my expectations as another rock-solid entry in the boys' catalogue. The first two songs are fantastic, the instrumentals (especially the second two) are royal ass-rippers, and the closing song is a typically strong one up there with "Out Of The Cradle," "Available Light," "Mystic Rhythms," etc. The production is much better than on Vapor Trails, of course, and that seems to be the reason why more people are embracing it! Which other band's members are fiftysomethings and rock this well? |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: May 03 2007 at 16:13 | ||
I`ts only $12.99 in Montréal right now.
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arcer
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Posted: May 03 2007 at 16:09 | ||
For me it's easily the best Rush album since the mid-80s. Put it this way, it's the first album of their to hold my attention all the way through since Hold Your Fire (back in the day when I didn't cringe at its 80s production values). That alone is enough for me to give it a whole-hearted recommendation.
I think there's a lot in there fans of old school Rush will really enjoy. I can't believe there people here decrying the fact that the band has concentrated on (heaven forbid) songs!! what a load of crap. Rush started out as a melody-based, song-oriented hard rock band, embraced prog and fusion along the way and have turned back to the song as art form - so what. They can't go on making La Villa Strangiato - it's just not where they're at any more. Get over it. Anyway, I defy anyone here to tell me Tom Sawyer or Red Barchetta aren't brilliantly worked pop songs. Give Snakes and Arrows a listen. The production's lovely, there's some great tunes on there and they sound more relaxed and enjoying the process than they have since maybe Signals. |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: May 03 2007 at 15:30 | ||
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Atomic_Rooster
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Posted: May 03 2007 at 14:51 | ||
I agree; Let us persecute them with fire and wit. |
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StyLaZyn
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
Posted: May 03 2007 at 14:30 | ||
If you notice, there is a one star rating by someone who joined today. Seems fishy to me. Anyone who claims to be a fan of any band for years and gives a recent release one star is another thing that seems odd.
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StarsongAgeless
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 18 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 176 |
Posted: May 03 2007 at 14:27 | ||
Is it just me, or is it a bit early for all these people to be writing reviews? You can't find out if an album stands up to the repeated listening test if you haven't had time to listen to it a ton.... My opinion of an album tends to change the longer I have it. I intend to write one at some point, but I'm going to take my time!
That's also why I have only written one review so far... and it was with a piece of material that I was extremely familiar with, having watched it many times over about 15 years. |
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