Petition to take Radiohead off Progarchi

OK lets accept (only for effects of this example) that Radiohead is prog, even when at least 50% of the people here don't believe it.

Then lets include The Who, I'm sure more people would accept that Tommy and Quadrophenia are Progressive albums, and this will be two albums, the double that Radiohead has.

But again, this thread is a waste of time, they are already in we will have to accept it as Radiohead fans will have to accept the reviews about their beloved band is receiving, I haven't even visited the page but according to what is said in this forum, the reviews are terrible.

Iván

I'm not apologizing for my opinion Cert, just being polite to you since I know its a very sensitive case for you, this thing about one of your favorite bands. I dont judge an album from one song, and yes, Leviatan, Last Man on Earth of Pendragon is "massive Prog after 1975" ! If you felt hooked and seduced by RH, my sincere congratulations.

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Lunar

Sorry Cert. I'm not wasting my precious time listening to a crappy Alternative Pop band that dont believe themselves that they could be prog just becuse somebody else believes it. Dont worry I wont review RH. Remember Kula-Shaker, they had more prog in them than what I heard of RH, KS was a far more interesting project than RH is.

My opinion on DT; A well structured heavy metal band with ups and downs, and some pretentious keyboard playing that could make them "listenable" to the trained prog-ear but under no circumstances a prog band "per si". They went to music schools and their final product is technically excellent, worth listening to.

Cert, again I see Enigma much closer to Progressive Rock than that other band. Michel Cretu has released 3 albums previous to the Enigma Project and was backed up by prog musicians. The enigma soundscape is by far closer to prog and you just doesnt have to make the effort to listen to it...its just there. The enigma project is a set of 5 recordings being the last one Voyageur the worst...cheap pop with 3-4 enigma tunes. The screen behind the mirror is a prog album. There is a 6th album called Transatlantic Air Waves but that one carries the heart and soul of Jens Gad (Kretu's partner in Enigma) with 10 covers of what they like in music.

Again, Joren is correct on all accounts ! I do share his opinion on all of them...

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Lunar

Wrong on all 3 counts, Joren.

DSOTM is a prog album.

Marillion are a great prog band - but they were greater with Fish.

Radiohead have produced some great prog albums.

All of these are in the Prog Archives.

They are prog - just not what you think of as prog.

There is a difference

Certif1ed wrote: OK Computer IS a prog album as much as Dark Side of the Moon. The Admins agree. Leave it alone and shut the f**k up.       Please?

I don't know if DSOTM is prog (I really doubt it), but PF made many prog albums... I'm afraid Radiohead didn't

Yes way, Lunar - to use your argument then Dream Theater clearly aren't prog, as I find it hard to hear any prog in their music, as do many others.

There are prog tendencies in much chill-out music, as you say, but it's not inherently prog - and neither are Enigma, depite the classical pretensions of Karl Jenkins - whose music I love. There may be elements - but that is all. The whole prog "groove" is missing, instead, the groove is one of soundscaping - which is highly inventive, but not prog.

OK Computer IS a prog album, NOT a Britpop or Indie album. Even The Bends rises above the Indie/Alt-Rock crowd into the realms of prog - although that is not inherently a prog album in the way OK Computer most definitely is. The Iron Lung EP shows Radiohead's development into prog territory even more strongly, especially the tracks "The Trickster" and "Punchdrunk Lovesick Singalong".

I've listened to Moby's "Play" many times. There's no prog on it.

Lunarscape wrote: Amnesiac, Ok Computer and I Might Be Wrong. Full length listening more than 3 times and hopefully never listen to that again ! _____ Lunar

And you still don't hear the prog?

I feel sorry for you - there's some great prog in there.

Lunarscape wrote: Reed; The EUROCHANNEL (Latin America DIRECTV) is currently running a documentary on this Radiohead outfit and I'll tell you, my opinion on them got consolidated. Its a Brit Pop outfit, they say that ! ! ! ! So from Alternative Indie Pop - they become Alternative Indie Pop Prog and joins Progarchives. Chorus like la-la-la-la, on a 3 chord song...wow what a blast. . There is NO WAY that RH could be compared to any Prog Dinossaurous and the Genesis example is not good since its clear that after Then There Were Three the band was so disfigured that posterious albums can be disconsidered. Its like discussing the last 3 Yes albums....worthless crap...but Radiohead simply doesnt have elements enough to join such fine company, unless, ofcourse, you open the gates and let everybody else in too; Grand Funk, Osibisa, Led Zeppelin, 10CC and so many others.... Ivan; I honestly dont belive in stopping this, Its a question of principles and not a question of personal taste. As much as I dont like King Crimson or Rush, I do recognize their value on the Prog scene. Gentle Giant is in the same package but just because I dont appreciate their albums, I cannot disconsider their contribution to Progressive music. As for the poll, nearly 50-50 is more than enough to send them back to where RH belongs....MTV pop scene ! _________ Lunar.

how many Radiohead albums have you listened to?

Reed; The EUROCHANNEL (Latin America DIRECTV) is currently running a documentary on this Radiohead outfit and I'll tell you, my opinion on them got consolidated. Its a Brit Pop outfit, they say that ! ! ! ! So from Alternative Indie Pop - they become Alternative Indie Pop Prog and joins Progarchives. Chorus like la-la-la-la, on a 3 chord song...wow what a blast. . There is NO WAY that RH could be compared to any Prog Dinossaurous and the Genesis example is not good since its clear that after Then There Were Three the band was so disfigured that posterious albums can be disconsidered. Its like discussing the last 3 Yes albums....worthless crap...but Radiohead simply doesnt have elements enough to join such fine company, unless, ofcourse, you open the gates and let everybody else in too; Grand Funk, Osibisa, Led Zeppelin, 10CC and so many others....

Ivan; I honestly dont belive in stopping this, Its a question of principles and not a question of personal taste. As much as I dont like King Crimson or Rush, I do recognize their value on the Prog scene. Gentle Giant is in the same package but just because I dont appreciate their albums, I cannot disconsider their contribution to Progressive music. As for the poll, nearly 50-50 is more than enough to send them back to where RH belongs....MTV pop scene !

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Lunar.