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Points: 9 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2004 at 13:23
Well I'd say something about linking Tolkien and Glass Hammer or Blind Guardian, but thosetwo bands had full albums that were "set" in Middle Earth as it is.
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Points: 953 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2004 at 14:10

oehgabugabuga... how about some camel +lotr

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Points: 6667 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2004 at 09:11

terrible...

Peace.
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Points: 5243 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2004 at 17:05
Check out Paco Fox's posts. "Keepers of the gloom" belongs to terrorists, not Tolkien.
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Points: 8138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2004 at 16:42
The rain song : "Keepers of the gloom" ?
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Points: 5243 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 16:54

The Lady, Yes........

However, didn't you learn yer leason about cigars on a previous thread, Peter?
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Points: 6667 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 16:35
I liked the idea of the lady standing for The One Ring... very poetical (if that's the right word in English)...
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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 16:14

 Hoo-rah for Danbo! Clap Though you have technically cheated by finding the answer via the Web, that's the song I had in mind. (In your defence, I didn't say not to do so, on this one.)

I think that only the title really works. That guy's analysis of the lyrics seems to me to be really stretching the Zep/Tolkien link beyond all credibility! I think that the "lady" in the lyrics is simply a human female; thus we have a love song. (Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.) The line "I live for my dreams, and a pocket full of gold," however could  be another "nod" to Bilbo & The Hobbit.
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Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Points: 5243 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 12:06

Found it. "Over the Hills and Far Away"

I stole this off a website: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/2406/othafa.html

This comes from the Houses of the Holy lyric booklet, so the lyrics are accurate. The first obvious connection is the title, "Over the Hills and Far Away", which refers to The Hobbit. Bilbo, Gandalf, and the band of dwarves go over the hills (the Misty Mountains) and far away. The last part may have a loose connection to the works, but I doubt it. However, the first four lines need a closer look. I believe that this describes when Bilbo finds the Ring of Power. The "Lady" is actually the Ring. It "has the love" Bilbo needs, as in it has the power to make him disappear and escape from the caves. It has more than enough love, however, since Bilbo obviously doesn't need all that power, and it ends up getting him and Frodo into a mess. But Bilbo likes the Ring, and wants it to "walk a while" with him. And it has so much power, too. Hairfoot, an esteemed Tolkien/Zeppelin lover sees a connection with the last part as well. He suggests the last stanza "could reference a large number of things in Hob and LOTR. The two most prominent are At the Gate of Moria--Gandalf trying to puzzle out the entrance phrase "Speak friend...." The other is the guessing game, or more properly known as the Riddle Game." I don't have any quotes for the interpretations on this song, since it's fairly obvious, and the quotes would have to be long passages for anyone to get anything out of them. I hope this is easy to understand and that the reader makes the connection. As with all, I welcome comments and corrections.

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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 11:24
 Danbo: Nope.Think song title.....
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O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Points: 5243 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 10:56
Excuse me
Oh will ya excuse me
I’m just trying to find the bridge
Has anybody seen the bridge?
Please!
(have you seen the bridge? )
I ain’t seen the bridge!
(where’s that confounded bridge? )

Maybe? I went through the lyrics for the whole album and I'm not seeing it. I've read those confounded books over and over.
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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2004 at 20:23

 You're welcome, Dood!

PS: Samantha Fox had "number one" ---s! (rhymes with a word for "very popular songs") That goes a long way toward explaining her former star status. She even admitted such: "I owe it all to my ----s" (rhymes with a word for "the forerunners of transistors" in radios and amps)Embarrassed

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Points: 1338 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2004 at 18:12
Thanks Peter for clearing that up!!!
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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2004 at 17:54

 Well Dude and Zep-heads, I FINALLY found an album cover site where the Hipgnosis (the company behind the HOTH cover art) photographer described the making of the cover. It was shot on the famous "Giant's Causeway" in Northern Ireland (in the rain), but the photog makes no mention of the identities of the (only two) children. If the kids had been either Plant's, or future celebs like Fox or Kensit, I'm sure he would have commented on that. Thus, the children on the cover appear to have been "nobodies" (no offense meant to them).

Unhappy Sadly, Plant's son Karac did die of a stomach infection in '77, at the age of five....

Rest In Peace, little Karac.
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O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Points: 1338 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2004 at 07:34
Had not heard that one, it would be interesting to get to the truth of the matter(if that is possible!!)
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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2004 at 07:19

 Dude: My my, how the rumours do fly! I hadn't heard Fox or Kensit mentioned before. I had heard that the pictures are multiple "exposures" (no joke intended) of Plant's son and daughter. His son later died at a young age, and rumour further has it that Plant at least partly blamed this tragedy on Page's dabbling in the occult.

Anyway, that's the disc -- spot the LOTR reference, music fans! 



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Points: 1338 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2004 at 05:47
HEY is "Houses of the Holy" the one with all the little kids climbing the rocks?(i dont have every led zep album) I beleive one of them is actually Samantha Fox a famous model and(very cute in her time) "page three" girl who actually went on to a short lived singing career in which she had a couple of no 1 singles in Britain and Europe(and Australia) in the mid to late 80,s i also beleive that another one of the kids is Patsy Kensit ,actress and Acadamy Award nominee,but i cant confirm this.

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Points: 6667 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2004 at 10:09
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

Gee, I didn't know they were such Tolkien-fanatics!

Well, (lyricist) Plant apparently was, anyway. Page (supposedly) was into "black" magic. He used to live in self-proclaimed antichrist Aleistar Crowley's former castle. Crowley was a nutbar! Wacko (Or at least a charlatan!)

Prog also abounds with JRRT references. Very influential books!

Page and black magic?? I didn't know that. One learns something new every day here!

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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2004 at 10:09

Originally posted by dude dude wrote:

GEE PETER you really area fan of THE RING!! ....UH OH Im IN FOR IT NOW!!!

Yeah Dude, you sicko, I'm into "the Ring," but I don't get to go there (to "Middle Earth"), Wink at least, not in this lifetime.... I can only watch such things on video!
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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2004 at 10:03

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

Gee, I didn't know they were such Tolkien-fanatics!

Well, (lyricist) Plant apparently was, anyway. Page (supposedly) was into "black" magic. He used to live in self-proclaimed antichrist Aleister Crowley's former castle, and was supposedly a devotee of Crowley's books. (I've thumbed through some Crowley. Magic "how-to" books: delusional, rambling; absolute crap -- don't bother! Crowley was a nutbar! Wacko (Or at least a charlatan! The rich and gullible supported him, for a while, but he died in ignominious obscurity.)

Prog also abounds with JRRT references. Very influential books!



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O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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