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Hammill
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 06:07 |
well i think that two very important musicians are missing from the list. peter hammill and ian anderson
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grandoleopry
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 00:40 |
Ian Anderson. This guy might win this poll. Shame it's a write in. You ought to give Tull a listen and find out what the buzz is all about.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 06 2005 at 16:12 |
Dave Brock is the singer and frontman of Hawkwind, but if I were to name a Hawkwind member as best lyricist it would be Robert Calvert. The SF-writer Michael Moorcock provided some Hawkwind lyrics too, and "The Chronicle of the Black Sword", one of Hawkwind's albums, is based on his Elric books.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: June 06 2005 at 15:56 |
Who is Dave Brock???
Are you serious?????

*psst - try Hawkwind... 
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sstarless
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Posted: June 06 2005 at 13:22 |
Voted for Fish, his lyrics are pure poetry.
I also miss Peter Hammill an Ian Anderson. There are indeed many great lyricists in prog. But who the hell is Dave Brock?
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Certif1ed
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Posted: June 06 2005 at 02:42 |
BaldJean wrote:
Also "So I'll hold my peace forever when you wear your bridal gown..." is a direct reference to Peter Hammill's "Lost and Found" from "Over".
"and I'll hold my peace forever but I'll hold my passion more... I'll be holding the door".
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That's true - Fish was far more inspired by Peter Hammill than Gabriel, contrary to popular opinion - the whole "losing on the swings, losing on the roundabouts" theme also refers to Hammill's lyrics (I forget which album/song).
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undefinability
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 21:14 |
None of the above.
I enjoy lyrics that don't have to meet the standards of boorish rhyming and the like, therefore Tool's vocalist, Maynard James Keenan, is one of my favorites. He not only focuses on the body and mind, but his personal lyrical pieces are innovative, as well.
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"Don't listen to me."
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 18:10 |
Fish, closely followed by Roger Waters.
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 16:58 |
Also "So I'll hold my peace forever when you wear your bridal gown..."
is a direct reference to Peter Hammill's "Lost and Found" from "Over".
"and I'll hold my peace forever
but I'll hold my passion more...
I'll be holding the door".
The song is based on a similar theme as the Marillion song. And of
course it is a well known fact that "Over is on the cover of "Fugazi".
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 16:29 |
incubus411 wrote:
I am a HUGE marillian fan and I also sing karaoke so I am always on the look for the correct lyrics to the songs that I really like == Script for a Jester's Tear being one of them. PROMISED WEDDING NOW A WAKE (as in the bride to be suddenly died). That is the story behind that song. A wake being the celebration of one's life after they die. |
I'm fairly certain that the wake refers to the death of the relationship (So here I am once more in the playground of the broken hearts), and the promised wedding is the starry-eyed protaganist's vision of where it was heading and should have been heading.
There is admission of having made some critical mistakes in a similarly funereal vein "...to bleed the lyric for this song, to write the rites to write my wrongs"
But the line that convinces me that this is about the death of the relationship, not a person, is "So I'll hold my peace forever when you wear your bridal gown..."
This is a fantastic line, with at least 2 clear meanings;
1) I will stop bugging you when I see you married - to me or someone else.
2) When you get married (to someone else), I will have had it with women - just me and my right hand from then on...
Fish's lyrics are the absolute best = a true poet of the 20th century - forget Andrew Motion!
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 13:45 |
FISH
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Mategra
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 13:17 |
BaldFriede wrote:
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House with no Door
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Peter Hammill is outstanding!
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Mategra
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 13:13 |
BaldFriede wrote:
[quote] How about Peter Blegvad of Slap Happy? (And of various solo albums, although those mostly have little to do with prog). [/qoute]
He's one of my favourite [prog] rock poets. I'm listening to "Sort of" right now.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 13:01 |
House with no Door
There's a house with no door and I'm living there; at nights it gets cold and the days are hard to bear inside. There's a house with no roof, so the rain creeps in, falling through my head as I try to think out time. I don't know you, you say you know me; that may be so, there's so much that I am unsure of. You call my name, but it sounds unreal, I forget how I feel: my body's rejecting the cure. There's a house with no bell but then nobody calls; I sometimes find it hard to tell if any are alive at all outside. There's a house with no sound; yes, it's quiet there - there's not much point in words if there's no-one to share in time. I've learned my lines, I know them so well, I am ready to tell whoever will finally come in of the line in my mind that's cold in the night.... It doesn't seem right when there's that little dark figure running. There's a house with no door and there's no living there: one day it became a wall...well I didn't really care at the time. There's a house with no light, all the windows are sealed, overtaxed and strained - now nothing is revealed but time I don't know you, you say you know me - that may be so, there's so much that I am unsure of. You call my name, but it sounds unreal; I forget how I feel, my body's rejecting the cure. Won't somebody help me?
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Kubla Khan
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:17 |
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Zargus
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 13:58 |
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Cesar Inca
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 12:37 |
'iNCUBUS' IS MY ALL-TIME FAVE MARILLION SONG... AND IT HAS MY ALL-TIME FAVE FISH-PENNED LYRICS, TOO!!
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muffley_mirkin
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 06:10 |
Come on you can't get much better than this. Unless you think its a load
of twaddle being spouted by a rather large scotsman. Which i don't.
Fish you were/are a genius
You can't brush me under the carpet, you can't hide me under the stairs.
The custodian of your private fears, your leading actor of yesteryear,
Who, as you crawled out of the alleys of obscurity,
Sentenced to rejection in the morass of anonymity.
You, who I directed with a lover's will, you who I let hypnotize the lens,
You who I let bathe in the spotlight's glare,
You who wiped me from your memory like a greasepaint mask,
Just like a greasepaint mask.
But now I'm the snake in the grass.
The ghost of film reels past.
And the producer of your nightmare,
And the performance has just begun, Its just begun.
(It's just begun)
Your perimeter of courtiers jerk like celluloid puppets,
As you stutter, paralyzed, with rabbit's eyes.
Searing the shadows, flooding the wings,
to pluck elusive salvation from the understudy's lips.
Retrieve the soliloquy, maintain the obituary.
My cue line in the last act, and you'll wait in silent solitude,
Waiting for the prompt, waiting for the prompt,
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Incubus441
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 01:09 |
I am a HUGE marillian fan and I also sing karaoke so I am always on the look for the correct lyrics to the songs that I really like == Script for a Jester's Tear being one of them. PROMISED WEDDING NOW A WAKE (as in the bride to be suddenly died). That is the story behind that song. A wake being the celebration of one's life after they die.
I have to say that Fish wrote some of the most provocitive lyrics I have ever heard, but I also have other favorate prog bands such as Camel, Kayak, Renaisannce, (early) Genesis (my favorate), and Glass Hammer.
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But was that love in your eyes I saw or the reflection of mine? I'll never know for sure cause you never gave me time! Give me TIME! Won't you give me the time!!!
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 02 2005 at 18:58 |
How about Peter Blegvad of Slap Happy? (And of various solo albums, although those mostly have little to do with prog).
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