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The greatest of them all is Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells. Some others worth mentioning (not necessarily my fave by the band or artist):
Alquin - Marks Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes Deluge Grander - August in the Urals Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left ELP - s/t Hamadryad - Conservation of Mass Kayak - See See the Sun Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn Shamblemaths - s/t Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico Edited by someone_else - August 19 2024 at 01:04 |
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Lots of debuts I love, for for a long running band with many albums, Kobaïa cannot be beaten for me. Magma has been going for 55 years, released lots of great albums, and that double-album from 1970 still can't be beat for me. A remarkable debut from a remarkable band.
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As far as a "proto-debut" LP, I would include Jethro Tull's This Was from 1968. It may have been the first album under that band name, but it was more of a collaboration in blues-rock and jazz with Mick Abrahams and Ian Anderson sharing the spotlight. It wasn't until 1969's Stand Up that we get the truer prog direction of the band.
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Yep in my book an E.P. (occasionally known as a maxi-single) contains 3-6 tracks and plays for around 10-20 minutes (i.e longer than the traditional 7" single). An album usually clocks in at 30+ minutes... anything in between can probably be described as a mini-album.
Although it's not hard and fast, and indeed gets more intriguing them more you delve into it. Edited by Floydoid - August 18 2024 at 14:05 |
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-An album released by the record company without permission from the artist is such a rare exception from "my rule", that is doesn't have an impact on how I think. But I agree that it doesn't count, as it's not the artists own album creation.
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Yes and I can understand why people say DOFP is the first Moody Blues album (even the band themselves considered it to be) but really it isn't because they had some of the same members plus the name is the same. Otherwise the first Renaissance album isn't Renaissance and also you could say Genesis didn't start until Trespass or Nursery Cryme and Yes didn't start until the Yes album but then it starts to get a bit silly.
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Thanks for reminding me that it's Music In A Doll's House and not From. I'll have to go fix that. I know of the others on your list but haven't heard them so I'll have to check them out. The Jon Anderson and Steve Hackett are both great though and worthy of inclusion for sure.
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^^For me it's very simple. The debut is the first album released by the specific artist or band. The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles & Fripp isn't the band King Crimson, but From Genesis to Revelation is released by Genesis - the band. That's why to me In the Court of the Crimson King is the former bands debut - and Trespass is the latter band's second album.
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I was going to mention Captain Beyond but wasn't sure if it was prog enough. Great album though.
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Question: Which was the Genesis debut?
"From Genesis to Revelation" or "Trespass"? The latter is surely the stronger LP! Also, many of these bands had "proto-debut" LPs. For example, "The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles & Fripp" clearly led into ITCOTCK! Great discussion everyone!! Paul, thanks for the amazing list!
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These are really good.
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Top 100 Amazing British Prog Debuts 1984: Abel Ganz - Gratuitous Flash - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZxsS9xKBm3HCPO8bTIHEUX 1976: Absolute Elsewhere - In Search of Ancient Gods - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l1PWRzBzSJLiAbHJyBuTavdm5_RF1v3Vs 2006: Also Eden - About Time - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k9DPta7d5abpyDiZpy14V3hIBfNKrj4bs 1976: Jon Anderson - Olias of Sunhillow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MdPa3vbmz8 1969: Andromeda - Andromeda - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLG-InimcgCwN45hHqKeahnS0Yy2IxCDUy 1995: Arena - Songs from the Lion's Cage - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mWD3neilwkfPLXcOKjQnp8aET0I1Ym9sM 1975: Armageddon - Armageddon - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m94hVwOUJvzqDmpw4CtkhVhyhuo7PjVzA 1969: Arzachel - Arzachel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRW8bkl33yU 1969: Axe - Music - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLrMVonyKv_BLDYQtWvsod_cS9jg5iwso 1973: Bachdenkel - Lemmings - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nsvlwdGUVwpVC_3fsiewkboTcNd6zmKVs 1979: Tony Banks - A Curious Feeling - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEaZNDtZYIu_lPp8J6V-yV58 1970: Peter Bardens - The Answer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmyHE7zQoGE 1970: Beggars Opera - Act One - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKyuhcIPapo 1970: Black Widow - Sacrifice - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mCJV2Yu1bXA4qY7xWpr0NR67MmDFM5QTE 1968: Canterbury Glass - Sacred Scenes and Characters - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nG6wb3xyVYyAjMwqVvz1Z9mYGVSz8Q4g4 1972: Capability Brown - From Scratch - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lj2GSV2oE3RtIYj-_JAV1UpJbHBhYm3Ik 1974: Captain Marryat - Captain Marryat - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5anYEEQrX20 1971: Catapilla - Catapilla - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tAWCAuqa-Q 1969: Circus - Circus - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMh58tYKpD4 1974: Cirkus - One - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKrWDo41Be0 1970: Cressida - Cressida - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVvqgURy2L9fDZtPgzwM8vNqIqHXuTrPw 1972: Dancer - Tales of the Riverbank - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WtitA1jS2Q 1972: Brian Davison's Every Which Way - Every Which Way (Prog Related) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9qFDNGdTdI 1987: Geoff Downes & New Dance Orchestra - The Light Program - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEapk1L5x6Xvsc0u4w1rIcMr 1975: Druid - Toward the Sun - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ls4rmrkSQ06We95r0H32RVo 1969: East of Eden - Mercator Projected - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ke4xIXppBK3D8_-4roOJnGX-7CkaEfm74 2011: Edison's Children - In the Last Waking Moments - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEb_s6dSYhR2sUilYyHWZW6y 1970: Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LupA_HcmerhVcS72ZRm6z5f 1977: England - Garden Shed - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEaT-1ortTQhaloS45Gk2rV- 1976: The Enid - In the Region of the Summer Stars - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdU5MQKDXsk 1973: Fantasy - Paint a Picture - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLn9olqC2rMHQwL7wWMmAqk 2011: Sean Filkins - War and Peace & Other Short Stories 1973: Fruupp - Future Legends - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mDWM3mS4bcdNf6txuuhQE1ZwNqJyrlVn4 1971: Fuchsia - Fuchsia - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2Ge5jbctAk 2011: Gandalf's Fist - Road to Darkness - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_km3KriKEylCFxHIXbixIqEfc_I2Sec_Nc 1970: The Ghost - When You're Dead - One Second - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kxKT6ZtYAcRCxj0aV-A0jiTku8Kljj4L8 2022: Ghost of the Machine - Scissorgames - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lyfddS1ZU-lYFqCPo6BbmV5fRUlW6AsXQ 1978: David Gilmour - David Gilmour - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lN1y8ZQU3IBWc0I0le3slF86aT_oG3jho 1968: The Gods - Genesis - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kKewXemZGvb6ClosLqtUdDu_zwCpjzvnM 1970: The Greatest Show On Earth - Horizons - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8CaYHAcNe1ftTHRrIr6IsVE3n2haQaQ6 1972: Nicholas Greenwood - Cold Cuts - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdWP9qeM8_0 1972: Gringo - Gringo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weh0SXhJ1iE 1968: The Gun - Gun - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5hP0G-7zaM 1975: Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mT7tituNqt2sSKa8TwVv2p6XJ7kdVn51I 1971: Hallelujah - Hallelujah Babe - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nKqD2atrRo-4gGEXLaz1B_K8RHZkksBUI 1973: Ken Hensley - Proud Words on a Dusty Shelf - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_keNEV6L1KU8YFfo40oB4bCTANhI5xxHzI 1977: Illusion - Out of the Mist - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m_ScOjrdOUxT21PJoTWo6T7vfcB9VvIkE 1971: Indian Summer - Indian Summer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=outeMg7vQY0 1972: Janus - Gravedigger - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l-sM5jaIhX6ng9YKO886qcwsOLTcKit_g 1969: Jody Grind - One Step On - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jij3QGYVVes 1975: Justin Hayward & John Lodge - Blue Jays - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4qgULCZHCwI3C39IGo3ZAFW7TCpLa1MM 1999: Janison Edge - The Services of Mary Goode - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFB21013D2A0BD780 2007: Iain Jennings' Breathing Space - Coming Up for Air - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m-k1G3-5l988MDK_6ixN0gjIPx7MuQxOw 1970: Julian's Treatment - A Time Before This - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTD9SWyXtvk 2021: Tony Kaye - End of Innocence - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mCjy2OnDnLX9XloXHOdwVCAZgPohqHFaw 1972: Khan - Space Shanty - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_neCfaRIj9J2aZKoMS909hNhdmCxafD_fo 1969: King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXhfRoiJBIiuXOUv_7EJ1i7UKj0aGfy0U 2001: The Lens - A Word in Your Eye - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nEs0csmtUHITQTGYRw_-dYe8ehlYJMRKc 2012: Francis Lickerish - Far and Forgot: From the Lost Lands - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kq-pjlZUbHbWHat5VafAgRa4jb9t9rILI 2013: Lifesigns - Lifesigns - http://lifesigns1.bandcamp.com/album/lifesigns 1977: John Lodge - Natural Avenue - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIzw8msU0mgCodmY3dQkzII 1972: Jon Lord - Gemini Suite - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nmPgVFk5GlxW7MP1dzLvG0qPlc46L4oBA 1974: Loudest Whisper - The Children of Lir - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3Vw_Y7pMiUZxN0mFZlzT7vuhijH4TLLw 2001: Magenta - Revolutions - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIe3T-MrH1EqR942YNj9Pwr 1975: Mandalaband - Mandalaband - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lclnCvwOa3UOJNZ0hF8xuLw-8swObP054 1983: Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYO9m_YiZnLF4CPjxkF2Cam 1970: Marsupilami - Marsupilami - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_myAl5Hq7MikJkxdE1HEY2k7yUYoIKVpY4 1970: May Blitz - May Blitz - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVvqgURy2L9eD9V-z88mzoIESk7_YqIaV 2021: Mobius - Make the Promise - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mSypwUCKRF1oaWUVq0MbATMjB5kVRbxDA 1967: The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kH3L9CRYvGAW2D1bj_2vx0JYvSpe74Wvw 1995: Moria Falls - The Long Goodbye - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsV4W_eKY2Fwlcd0Zg4WGzssV9sUtU_lI 1998: Mostly Autumn - For All We Shared - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZZGWIfFT6kVSIhBY4ZgDEL 2005: Ian Neal - All in the Golden Afternoon - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lSVBIPU_lD7Jh64WGxxzbwKHdMAzolFBo 2013: Neon Leaves - Cinema Verite - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ngE_4a86Iw-yhH_eJ0ezQrPA9moA_Ci7A 1971: Nektar - Journey to the Centre of the Eye - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kynjoDkG1vw 1999: Clive Nolan & Oliver Wakeman - Jabberwocky - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kRNzuC_raR9uuKARO42tGdSHYyL3Wn79g 1973: Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv_4sZCLlr0 1984: Pallas - The Sentinel - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLcpeZ4mTlBspQfPJcAsh94 1972: The Parlour Band - Is a Friend? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqkZpxz2uMU 1976: The Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination (Crossover Prog) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNCAUSEhegqjQAMMocw1QFu9G-bE4zeTM 1973: Peggy's Leg - Grinilla - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPLlWZ2pPKI 1977: Anthony Phillips - The Geese and the Ghost - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lgdg15vMyGQO3dBj0h075-2csAyvKeowI 1967: Procol Harum - Procol Harum - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbIN9DHtOfK8kMQKJM2iH8izvBKsvD4Oy 1969: Pussy - Pussy Plays - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgGqnjEkfTg 1970: Quatermass - Quatermass - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4JYseU0yrw 1974: Quicksand - Home is Where I Belong - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhE3_E9MhkQ 2004: Rain - Cerulean Blue - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_llh-RNbQFwAatOKHs0CizWhACM0F6WqA8 1969: Rare Bird - Rare Bird - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvK5vQsU60ak-yGesZp3Yen 1970: Raw Material - Raw Material - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLZWRIZm4ZoZpvGIOG5H9bF 1974: Refugee - Refugee - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGfb2R92OHul6B1GBr1niUp0JyGGEqLzT 1971: Salamander - The Ten Commandments - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H78A8FiJQ0g 1992: Shadowland - Ring of Roses - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsV4W_eKY2FyMLUHMRIWmHktMQbr8gUcH 1971: Spring - Spring - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmY-ootwxm4 1975: Chris Squire - Fish Out of Water - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lXJGLyAKLJKuc4-KSIMYxAruaWtvgXNrE 1972: Steel Mill - Green Eyed God - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kx4tlavVaaoraTQShCyNqW4uDDf7TytK8 1971: Still Life - Still Life - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AunQ509r60Q 1990: Strangers on a Train - The Key, Part 1: The Prophecy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXoR8LJsW2w 1972: Sunday - Sunday - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oft6x5AinJI 2018: Michael Alan Taylor - Avalonia (The Sonnets of Guinevere) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lXkEL6wWKJh_UyirC6BwLqdd_2IAyJdUs 2017: This Winter Machine - The Man Who Never Was - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY2rDKk0-Mo 1975: Ray Thomas - From Mighty Oaks - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLloI0x5-W8WlJXMfMezYag 2014: Tiger Moth Tales - Cocoon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI6Yu9u24yg 1970: Titus Groan - Titus Groan - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2yT8Q531GA 1971: Tonton Macoute - Tonton Macoute - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBpoajyKcyo 1978: U.K. - U.K. - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsK_9sobf6Rya7Ktl9xSA59 2014: Unto Us - The Human Landscape - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kpXLFJcuVdKUalr7akZJnFo75tdtIMgxo 1973: Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives of Henry VIII - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtZowz5527OrFUPTS44Xpuc 1973: Darryl Way's Wolf - Canis Lupus - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k9grrUQYUqv2jmNwaXiMyk0lBdmbFoWU0 2005: Willowglass - Willowglass - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWXZYZ2alpNPcPWl0u9k0X8llnDwWeSj8 1980: Woolly Wolstenholme & Maestoso - Uneasy Listening (Eclectic Prog) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mS--foGRmQujWGvy2tpkDMUIjX9F_xwhQ 1978: Richard Wright - Wet Dream (Crossover Prog) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJIoRLgDK6z61RmX1trrdtPFVfYC24thP 1969: Writing on the Wall - Power of the Picts - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mXEQJubcY7JTh7GRyD1A5OFrYHq1GwZm0
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These ones are great indeed.
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Family - Music In a Doll's House Caravan - Caravan Fantasy - Paint a Picture Jon Anderson - Olias of Sunhillow Steve Hillage - Fish Rising Goblin - Profondo Rosso (Colonna Sonora Originale Del Film) Lenny White - Venusian Summer Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte Utopia - Todd Rundgren's Utopia Tako - Tako
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OP here - Thanks, everyone, this is great!!
A few of my personal favorites include: Captain Beyond, s/t Uriah Heep, "Very Eavy....Very 'Umble" (US release had the amazing song "Bird of Prey") Styx, s/t Starcastle, s/t Flash, s/t Having been around a number of bands that were recording their debut LP, I know that the energy runs very high in the studio!! |
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^I forgot all about PG's debut and also RW and Kansas.
Another good one is the first David Gilmour album. Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - August 17 2024 at 23:41 |
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