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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

The most underrated Prog-Rock guitarist will most likely be a guitarist I've never heard of. Smile

That would probably be Roman Bunka. Jean posted two songs of his first solo album on page 1 of this thread. Here are two other great tracks on which he plays, one more from his great first solo album, the other from the
Embryo album "Steig Aus!":






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The most underrated Prog-Rock guitarist will most likely be a guitarist I've never heard of. Smile
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Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

He's also in a metal band called Scar Symmetry. Nice guitar work there as well. Tongue
Agreed! The harsh vocals spoil that band's music for me though.

one of the few melodic death metal bands I enjoy. Big smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

He's also in a metal band called Scar Symmetry. Nice guitar work there as well. Tongue
Agreed! The harsh vocals spoil that band's music for me though.
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Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:

John Mitchell and Mike Holmes are certainly underrated in my opinion, and have both already been mentioned here, but someone who hasn't been mentioned thus far is Per Nilsson of Kaipa.

He's also in a metal band called Scar Symmetry. Nice guitar work there as well. Tongue


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John Mitchell and Mike Holmes are certainly underrated in my opinion, and have both already been mentioned here, but someone who hasn't been mentioned thus far is Per Nilsson of Kaipa.

Here's a short sample of his talents:



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The answer to this question comes easy for me ... Kerry Livgren from Kansas. ever seen him live you would agree.Tongue

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I mentioned Andy Latimer before but I thought of another one and that is Mike Holmes.

If we can add more fusion oriented artists I will say Scott Mcgill.


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Videos like this one are one of the reasons why Jean and I wanted Barbara Denerlein added to jazz-rock/fusion. Her string of seven albums from "Orgelspiele" released in 1984 to "Outhipped" in 1999, six of which included Mitch Watkins, that in our opinion all clearly were jazz-rock/fusion, was another reason. A third reason was that she clearly is an innovator with her use of MIDI-technology and the way she plays the bass pedals.

Here another smoking track of her featuring Watkins:



The jazz-rock/fusion team did however not agree with us.

This clip is brilliant too, thanks for sharing.  Rick Keller plays a mean saxophone too where Andy Shepard was kind of off colour in that Sonny Rollins track performance. Of course, Barbara Dennerlein is always, unfailingly brilliant. 

I can see why the JR-F team wouldn't have accepted her.  I think they have a specific JR-F sound in mind for PA and she doesn't fit that.  I had suggested Ilayaraja for Indo-prog/Raga Rock as a long shot suggestion (he released two non-film all instrumental albums) and he was rejected too.  I guess he didn't fit the Indo-prog 'sound', whatever that maybe, though, um, he is Indian.  It's alright.  I am sure she has a home on JMA. 
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Mike Oldfield?
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Speaking of speed, how about speed AND complexity AND flavour? Mitch Watkins has it all in this solo:


Wow, nice call. BaldJean is the only other member here I'd expect to ref the Mitch. I love that line-up. Clap

Videos like this one are one of the reasons why Jean and I wanted Barbara Denerlein added to jazz-rock/fusion. Her string of seven albums from "Orgelspiele" released in 1984 to "Outhipped" in 1999, six of which included Mitch Watkins, that in our opinion all clearly were jazz-rock/fusion, was another reason. A third reason was that she clearly is an innovator with her use of MIDI-technology and the way she plays the bass pedals.

Here another smoking track of her featuring Watkins:



The jazz-rock/fusion team did however not agree with us.


Edited by BaldFriede - January 09 2021 at 04:40


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Just to add up another couple of Gems:  Randy Kalifornia and Phil Keaggy

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^Interesting and valid suggestion (Edgar Froese), thanks!Thumbs Up
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2021 at 17:31
Edgar Froese.

No, really. A lot of people don't know he was a guitarist who formed a psych rock band called The Ones that dates back to '65. After they disbanded, Edgar embarked on a different musical path that was the result of crossing paths with Salvador Dali. Tangerine Dream goes back to '67, and back then they sounded nothing like what people are familiar with.


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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Speaking of speed, how about speed AND complexity AND flavour? Mitch Watkins has it all in this solo:


Wow, nice call. BaldJean is the only other member here I'd expect to ref the Mitch. I love that line-up. Clap
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote Gully Foyle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2021 at 13:35
Bondage Fruit is amazing - so I will definitely second that too!  Despite listening for a long time, I really had never looked into the players.

Come to think of it there are plenty of amazing records i've heard 100's of times, and have no idea who those players are beyond the band name.  For some reason the Samuel Jackson 5 come to mind - though maybe that's because the band name is so good!
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Kido Natsuki, of Korekyojinn, Bondage Fruit, Umezu Kazutoki Kiki Band, etc., though he's not so much underappreciated as just simply unknown outside of Japan.
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Greg Lake. He put his guitar chops on a back burner for the bass but if you listen closely his guitar sweeteners (few and far between admittedly) and the few solos he could have been much more.

I definitely agree with this!  I believe that he and Robert Fripp both had the same guitar instructor growing up in Wimborne Dorset. 
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

No idea about most underrated, but I'm giving Roger Wootton and Glen Goring a nod. Why? I've heard Comus' First Utterance called utterly horrible, but I find that guitar work on "The Herald" so haunting and beautiful that I think those people are severely underrating the merits of that when they call it utterly horrible (utterancely horrible) or abject crap.
How could I forget about Wootton, that Comus debut is one of the best albums ever released!
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I started thinking about obscure ones, but reading the thread made me think about Martin Barre.  Ian is such a control freak, and such a giant image/personality/ego that for many he is JT.  I think Martin is an incredibly talented and creative guitarist, though so humble and (back then) bought into the JT project that he fades into the background.  Like everyone knows Bill Haley, who the hell were the Comets?

So, I'll second that - Martin.  A giant part of what we love about JT, but rarely talked about outside certain circles, and even among prog folks often overlooked.
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