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Ratings are overrated and I could give a sh*t if an album that really appeals to me doesn't to others,
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I think APP require a rather unik taste unlike most JT albums, that is actually quite straight forward, and easy to swallow compared to a lot of the music WE are listening too. Guess that is why it will not be rated too high compared to other JT albums.

Note: I am not a huge fan of the album myself, but that is not important in this context.     
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2019 at 11:12
Shocked Really? I thought it helped saved the Rain Forrest back in the seventies.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote softandwet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2019 at 10:39
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:


Thick As A Brick is about climate change.
 
(According to Al Gore.)
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It's more about the passage between childhood and adulthood and about the perpetual replacement of generations (especially in the government and in the world of work) through years

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2019 at 09:47
Originally posted by softandwet softandwet wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by softandwet softandwet wrote:

What do you guys think about A Passion Play? I've listened to it once and it really bored me. Aside, Thick As A Brick is in my top 3 of Prog albums.
So should I listen to it again?


Sad that you think so ... it is, by very far, one of the most intelligent and expressive things ever ... but, then, you probably don't even know what a "passion play" is and its history for hundreds of years ... in order to even come close to appreciate what Ian and his band did, which is phenomenal!

This is the case where a little knowledge and intelligence really makes a difference. You might even go read the other thread where DE and others clarify the whole thing for you ... 


I definitely know what a passion play is and I understand it's meaning, but it just doesn't match musically (at least for the moment) with me. Please stop being haughty and try to understand the meaning of TAAB then, because I think it somehow concerns you : "and your wise men don't know how it feels ; to be thick as a brick".
Thick As A Brick is about climate change.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote softandwet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2019 at 06:44
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by softandwet softandwet wrote:

What do you guys think about A Passion Play? I've listened to it once and it really bored me. Aside, Thick As A Brick is in my top 3 of Prog albums.
So should I listen to it again?


Sad that you think so ... it is, by very far, one of the most intelligent and expressive things ever ... but, then, you probably don't even know what a "passion play" is and its history for hundreds of years ... in order to even come close to appreciate what Ian and his band did, which is phenomenal!

This is the case where a little knowledge and intelligence really makes a difference. You might even go read the other thread where DE and others clarify the whole thing for you ... 


I definitely know what a passion play is and I understand it's meaning, but it just doesn't match musically (at least for the moment) with me. Please stop being haughty and try to understand the meaning of TAAB then, because I think it somehow concerns you : "and your wise men don't know how it feels ; to be thick as a brick".
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2019 at 17:02
So I did merge softandwet's "A Passion Play?" topic post, and all the subsequent replies one-by-one into this topic, which would make some of the responses as well as his post seem weird when reading through this thread if one were not aware that I had taken this action.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote admireArt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2019 at 14:34
You kind of need to be in a special mood to actually go through, but yes I think THICK is easily enticing.
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Originally posted by softandwet softandwet wrote:

What do you guys think about A Passion Play? I've listened to it once and it really bored me. Aside, Thick As A Brick is in my top 3 of Prog albums.
So should I listen to it again?

Sad that you think so ... it is, by very far, one of the most intelligent and expressive things ever ... but, then, you probably don't even know what a "passion play" is and its history for hundreds of years ... in order to even come close to appreciate what Ian and his band did, which is phenomenal!

This is the case where a little knowledge and intelligence really makes a difference. You might even go read the other thread where DE and others clarify the whole thing for you ... 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Progosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2019 at 15:25
APP is a grower. It has a strange sound unique to it which may take a while to get used to. It is Tull's most dense album both musically and lyrically. I recommend patience with it but only if it catches your fancy in some way. Never try to like something others say you should like if you don't, but some music deserves more than one or even two listens. This is one of those cases. Part of the prog experience is trying out music new to you. Sometimes it will grab you, sometimes not. This one requires attention to the lyrics.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2019 at 10:30
As Raff said there is a 7 page thread on this already...go ck it out.
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Liked it tremendously from the first listen and prefer it to taab. 
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Originally posted by softandwet softandwet wrote:

What do you guys think about A Passion Play? I've listened to it once and it really bored me. Aside, Thick As A Brick is in my top 3 of Prog albums.
So should I listen to it again?
You should only listen to it again if you have insomnia. That's all the album is good for.
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Originally posted by softandwet softandwet wrote:

What do you guys think about A Passion Play? I've listened to it once and it really bored me. Aside, Thick As A Brick is in my top 3 of Prog albums.
So should I listen to it again?


It'll go over your head the first time. It's one of those top notch complex prog albums and requires many, many listens to sink in. Took me a long time to appreciate it as a 5 star album. There's so much to digest. I compare albums like A Passion Play as an album to math classes.  You won't understand calculus until you master algebra. Thick As A Brick is a less complex album built on variations of a few themes. A Passion Play opens the floodgates and delivers a deluge of ideas that don't repeat. It's one of those many don't have the patience to decode.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2019 at 07:35
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:


Maybe one of the Admins will see fit to merge the threads.


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Maybe one of the Admins will see fit to merge the threads.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2019 at 07:33
there is a similar thread, started a little while ago...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Manuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2019 at 07:00
I would. I've always liked it, but I understand is not an easy listning. However, it is quite deep in compositional skills, and it gradually grows on you. Thick as a Brick is also one of my favorite pieces os music, probably the top one.
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What do you guys think about A Passion Play? I've listened to it once and it really bored me. Aside, Thick As A Brick is in my top 3 of Prog albums.
So should I listen to it again?
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