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Posted: April 13 2020 at 03:49 |
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No more jokes, Magma mythology is serious business! |
Yes, it’s a very complex concept. I folllow the music more than the storyline.
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Posted: April 13 2020 at 03:42 |
No more jokes, Magma mythology is serious business!
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Posted: April 13 2020 at 03:40 |
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A destructive commando machine ?? |
Mechanic or machine would imply some kind of fighting robots and I haven't heard about those in the mythology. |
I was joking.
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Posted: April 13 2020 at 03:10 |
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A destructive commando machine ?? |
Mechanic or machine would imply some kind of fighting robots and I haven't heard about those in the mythology.
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Posted: April 13 2020 at 02:49 |
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What is the meaning of the title Mekanïk Destruktïẁ Kommandöh? The most literal translation would be Mechanic Destroyer Commando. But Mekanik could also mean motion. And Kommandöh could mean squad ("destroyer squad" makes senses) but also order/command. | I have wondered it too. In that trilogy there are spiritualist Nebehr Gudahtt, so I have wondered is there in that third piece also some "bad leader"? First I thought Kommandöh meant that leader (you can translate it into "commandoman" also), but really not sure about that at all...and naturally it could be squad also. Anyway my knowledge about Magma mythology is really superficial. |
 I`ve battled with this very question for absolutely years until my brain went in meltdown and I haven`t found the answer at all. your answer is worthy as a posable true answer. I can only hope! |
If you´re believing VdGG-members are nazis for that picture, then you can start also believe Monthy Python nazis! I just thought it could be kind of inside "black humour" of the band, I am not sure who it is who´s walking with that ball, but if that´s Hammill, others just could have wanted to "show he is their fuhrer" in that very funny, but also little mean way (I think he always been the leader of the band).
I believe really many Finnish people have really black humour with them (I think I have also). When Finnish humor band "Eläkeläiset" was one of their first gigs in Germany, somebody said them, "you can tell all kinds of jokes, but not tell any homo or nazi-jokes". Or course they started their gig saying "Heil Homo-Hitlers!". But some reason German people have always loved them!
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Posted: April 13 2020 at 00:48 |
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What is the meaning of the title Mekanïk Destruktïẁ Kommandöh? The most literal translation would be Mechanic Destroyer Commando. But Mekanik could also mean motion. And Kommandöh could mean squad ("destroyer squad" makes senses) but also order/command. | I have wondered it too. In that trilogy there are spiritualist Nebehr Gudahtt, so I have wondered is there in that third piece also some "bad leader"? First I thought Kommandöh meant that leader (you can translate it into "commandoman" also), but really not sure about that at all...and naturally it could be squad also. Anyway my knowledge about Magma mythology is really superficial. |
 I`ve battled with this very question for absolutely years until my brain went in meltdown and I haven`t found the answer at all. your answer is worthy as a posable true answer. I can only hope!
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Posted: April 13 2020 at 00:17 |
A destructive commando machine ??
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Posted: April 12 2020 at 23:30 |
Tendiwa wrote:
What is the meaning of the title Mekanïk Destruktïẁ Kommandöh? The most literal translation would be Mechanic Destroyer Commando. But Mekanik could also mean motion. And Kommandöh could mean squad ("destroyer squad" makes senses) but also order/command. |
I have wondered it too. In that trilogy there are spiritualist Nebehr Gudahtt, so I have wondered is there in that third piece also some "bad leader"? First I thought Kommandöh meant that leader (you can translate it into "commandoman" also), but really not sure about that at all...and naturally it could be squad also. Anyway my knowledge about Magma mythology is really superficial.
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Posted: April 12 2020 at 23:21 |
I prophesy disaster wrote:
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In my youth (around age 20) I parodied Hitler speeches to make fun of
them with sentences like "We will errrradicate them, we will destrrrroy
them, we will mince-meat them, we will make
potato salad of them". A few years later I learned that some people
apparently did not get it and took me for a Nazi, which could not be
further from the truth.
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This reminds me of the inner cover of Pawn Hearts. |
Just noticed that picture yesterday when watching original cover of Pawn Hearts from discogs, it is absolutely funny, really hope somebody´s not going to accuse Hammill and co to nazis...
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Posted: April 12 2020 at 22:07 |
Wurdah and 1001 awesome stuff
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Posted: April 12 2020 at 16:18 |
I prophesy disaster wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
In my youth (around age 20) I parodied Hitler speeches to make fun of them with sentences like "We will errrradicate them, we will destrrrroy them, we will mince-meat them, we will make potato salad of them". A few years later I learned that some people apparently did not get it and took me for a Nazi, which could not be further from the truth.
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This reminds me of the inner cover of Pawn Hearts. |
It’s all about the ball in Jaxon’s arm.
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Posted: April 12 2020 at 16:04 |
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In my youth (around age 20) I parodied Hitler speeches to make fun of
them with sentences like "We will errrradicate them, we will destrrrroy
them, we will mince-meat them, we will make
potato salad of them". A few years later I learned that some people
apparently did not get it and took me for a Nazi, which could not be
further from the truth.
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This reminds me of the inner cover of Pawn Hearts.
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No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
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Posted: April 12 2020 at 13:09 |
What is the meaning of the title Mekanïk Destruktïẁ Kommandöh? The most literal translation would be Mechanic Destroyer Commando. But Mekanik could also mean motion. And Kommandöh could mean squad ("destroyer squad" makes senses) but also order/command.
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Posted: April 12 2020 at 12:32 |
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| Last week I listened to MDK studio recording and TH from Retrospektïw, and I actually thought TH was better, while MDK used to be my favourite.I haven't listened to MDK from the Theusz Hamtaahk Trilogie and TH from BBC 1974 Londres in a while.
Thanks for the Wikipedia link. The Magma mythology is epic! I would love to know the entire story, but on the other hand all the guessing and the mystery that surrounds it makes it maybe even better. | Well, if you want to know something about the story (the first albums), here´s old thread about it (the last post in it): http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114476 |
Interesting read! |
No. I haven´t got any information, what´s behind their latest releases, Felicite Thösz, Sl*g Tanz and Zess, only that Zess is also old composition.
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Posted: April 12 2020 at 11:29 |
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| Last week I listened to MDK studio recording and TH from Retrospektïw, and I actually thought TH was better, while MDK used to be my favourite.I haven't listened to MDK from the Theusz Hamtaahk Trilogie and TH from BBC 1974 Londres in a while.
Thanks for the Wikipedia link. The Magma mythology is epic! I would love to know the entire story, but on the other hand all the guessing and the mystery that surrounds it makes it maybe even better. | Well, if you want to know something about the story (the first albums), here´s old thread about it (the last post in it): http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114476 |
Interesting read!
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Posted: April 11 2020 at 08:05 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
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^ I expected Vander to be above bickering and such. |
Apparently Stellar does the axing. |
This I can believe.......
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Posted: April 11 2020 at 07:50 |
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^ I expected Vander to be above bickering and such. | Apparently Stellar does the axing.
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Posted: April 11 2020 at 03:54 |
In my youth (around age 20) I parodied Hitler speeches to make fun of
them with sentences like "We will errrradicate them, we will destrrrroy
them, we will mince-meat them, we will make
potato salad of them". A few years later I learned that some people
apparently did not get it and took me for a Nazi, which could not be
further from the truth.
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Posted: April 11 2020 at 02:54 |
Tendiwa wrote:
Mortte wrote:
Tendiwa wrote:
Mortte wrote:
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Is the Theusz Hamtaahk Trilogie in the mythologically cronic order: Theusz Hamtaahk, Ẁurdah Ïtah, Mekanïk Destruktïẁ Kommandöh? | Yes, the "story" goes in that order. And in that other trilogy order is: K.A, Köhntarkösz & Emëhntëhtt-Ré. |
I didn't know K.A, Köhntarkösz and Emëhntëhtt-Ré are also a trilogy!
The Theusz Hamtaahk trilogy was released in its entirety on the 2001 live album, but many people prefer other versions of the three parts. What are your favourite versions? | I think studio versions are the best in Wurdah & MDK (although live versions from that THT-box are really great too). Hard to say about the first part because they have never recorded it as studio, but maybe it´s the first recording from BBC (released in AKT-series in 1998, BBC 1974 Londres).
Yes, they´re trilogy too, you can read something about the story in them here: |
Last week I listened to MDK studio recording and TH from Retrospektïw, and I actually thought TH was better, while MDK used to be my favourite. I haven't listened to MDK from the Theusz Hamtaahk Trilogie and TH from BBC 1974 Londres in a while.
Thanks for the Wikipedia link. The Magma mythology is epic! I would love to know the entire story, but on the other hand all the guessing and the mystery that surrounds it makes it maybe even better. |
Well, if you want to know something about the story (the first albums), here´s old thread about it (the last post in it): http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=114476
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Posted: April 11 2020 at 02:13 |
Mortte wrote:
Tendiwa wrote:
Mortte wrote:
Tendiwa wrote:
Is the Theusz Hamtaahk Trilogie in the mythologically cronic order: Theusz Hamtaahk, Ẁurdah Ïtah, Mekanïk Destruktïẁ Kommandöh? | Yes, the "story" goes in that order. And in that other trilogy order is: K.A, Köhntarkösz & Emëhntëhtt-Ré. |
I didn't know K.A, Köhntarkösz and Emëhntëhtt-Ré are also a trilogy!
The Theusz Hamtaahk trilogy was released in its entirety on the 2001 live album, but many people prefer other versions of the three parts. What are your favourite versions? | I think studio versions are the best in Wurdah & MDK (although live versions from that THT-box are really great too). Hard to say about the first part because they have never recorded it as studio, but maybe it´s the first recording from BBC (released in AKT-series in 1998, BBC 1974 Londres).
Yes, they´re trilogy too, you can read something about the story in them here: |
Last week I listened to MDK studio recording and TH from Retrospektïw, and I actually thought TH was better, while MDK used to be my favourite. I haven't listened to MDK from the Theusz Hamtaahk Trilogie and TH from BBC 1974 Londres in a while.
Thanks for the Wikipedia link. The Magma mythology is epic! I would love to know the entire story, but on the other hand all the guessing and the mystery that surrounds it makes it maybe even better.
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