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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 09:00 |
The trouble is defining the greater good. Do you give out fish to poor people or do you teach poor people to fish. Both cost money and politics and economics only takes a short term view, because politicos have to win votes every four years. Long term strategies mean sacrifice AND long term investment.
From a UK perspective I actually don't buy into the ruse that there is no money (or just limited money) for society's most vulnerable. If there's hundreds of billions for bank bailouts and war, then there is money to make sure that disabled pensioners don't have to sleep in their own piss. Film director Ken Loach described it as 'conscious cruelty' in other words ideologically driven and intentional, and I'm inclined to agree.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group
Site Admin
Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
Status: Offline
Points: 35951
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 08:43 |
Yes, with many reservations. I don't trust the government with taxes as they show themselves to be extremely wasteful, nor do I expect that any one "adminstration"'s greater good would quite jibe with my expectations. I would like to see that the government that chooses to raise taxes is also tightening their belts and dropping their standard of living. I would want a long-term approach that will protect the environment as much as possible, and I would like to see population control as part of the equation. I want efficient spending and efficient birthing.
In the meantime, I do think it far too unfair that most children are growing up in poverty while others are born with silver spoons up their nostrils. I don't wish to support bludgers, and I don't think it's fair that many of us in the so-called middle class of income choose to limit our number of children, while others who are very poor keep on pumping out babies for the rest of us to support. That said, I don't blame it on the babies, and think that those children should be adequately supported.
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Meltdowner
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: June 25 2013
Location: Portugal
Status: Offline
Points: 10232
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 08:30 |
I already pay a lot of taxes and we're still seen as burden to Europe so, no, I don't trust the government.
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Vompatti
Forum Senior Member
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Joined: October 22 2005
Location: elsewhere
Status: Offline
Points: 67407
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 08:11 |
I doubt any government would agree with me on what the greater good is.
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someone_else
Forum Senior Member
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Joined: May 02 2008
Location: Going Bananas
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Points: 24315
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 07:35 |
It's not because I'm reluctant to pay taxes, but I don't rely on the government to define the "greater good" in days like these, when many (Western European) countries seem to have developed autoimmune diseases.
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 03:24 |
Would you be prepared to accept a drop in living standards for the "greater good" In other words would you happily surrender more of your income in taxation to support those with less than you in the name of addressing income inequality, and addressing the challenges of poverty.
Do you trust government to clearly define what the "greater good" really is, and not to use your tax revenue to simply fund tax cuts for their friends, the "actual rich"
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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