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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 10:16 |
Luke wrote:
fandango wrote:
Luke wrote:
Gates Of Delirium is even worse than Tales. i wonder how
is it possible Yes created stuff like Going For The One which is really
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I wouldn't go spreading your oppinion about Gates too loudly in this
forum young Luke, you might find yourself tied to a telegraph pole
wearing nothing but your undies...
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thank you for saying i'm young, that's really nice someone finally
said that. Gates would be really good if it had concept,
progress and music... instead of that we got collection of sounds,
pretty good collection but still just sounds. |
Gates is actually one of Yes' most easily understood epics, far more so than the spirtual claptrap of Tales.
Gates of Delerium is an anti-war song. The first part deals with the
people preparing for war, their doubts and fears. The second part, that
loud jazzy instrumental section, is the war itself. The music is
violent and explosive, filled with screaming and metallic clashing -
isn't it obvious that this is musical war? The final part, "Soon", is
Anderson's personal uplifting appeal for this madness to end. Yes never
recorded a more lucid and moving piece. Concept by the bucketload, mate.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 10:10 |
Luke wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Luke wrote:
fandango wrote:
Luke wrote:
Gates Of Delirium is even worse than Tales. i wonder how is it possible Yes created stuff like Going For The One which is really good and contains long pieces. |
I wouldn't go spreading your oppinion about Gates too loudly in this forum young Luke, you might find yourself tied to a telegraph pole wearing nothing but your undies...
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thank you for saying i'm young, that's really nice someone finally said that. Gates would be really good if it had concept, progress and music... instead of that we got collection of sounds, pretty good collection but still just sounds.
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Man you are so up your own ass!
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so you expected i would come and start kissing up? if i don't like something i say it. simple as that.
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No you don't just say it, you slate it! Calling Gates just sounds though????!!! Plain ridiculous!
You said
Gates would be really good if it had concept, progress and music...
It has all of these in abundance, I don't understand why you can't see it!!
Edited by Snow Dog
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Logos
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:39 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Man you are so up your own ass! |
Yes he is! Better than anyone else ...
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:37 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Luke wrote:
fandango wrote:
Luke wrote:
Gates Of Delirium is even worse than Tales. i wonder how is it possible Yes created stuff like Going For The One which is really good and contains long pieces. |
I wouldn't go spreading your oppinion about Gates too loudly in this forum young Luke, you might find yourself tied to a telegraph pole wearing nothing but your undies...
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thank you for saying i'm young, that's really nice someone finally said that. Gates would be really good if it had concept, progress and music... instead of that we got collection of sounds, pretty good collection but still just sounds.
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Man you are so up your own ass!
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so you expected i would come and start kissing up? if i don't like something i say it. simple as that.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:35 |
Luke wrote:
fandango wrote:
Luke wrote:
Gates Of Delirium is even worse than Tales. i wonder how is it possible Yes created stuff like Going For The One which is really good and contains long pieces. |
I wouldn't go spreading your oppinion about Gates too loudly in this forum young Luke, you might find yourself tied to a telegraph pole wearing nothing but your undies...
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thank you for saying i'm young, that's really nice someone finally said that. Gates would be really good if it had concept, progress and music... instead of that we got collection of sounds, pretty good collection but still just sounds.
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Man you are so up your own ass!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:34 |
@ Logos.........I'm right!!!!!!
@Luke........I hardly agree with anything you ever say, so I might as well take no notice
@Fandango....Hello!
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:30 |
fandango wrote:
Luke wrote:
Gates Of Delirium is even worse than Tales. i wonder how is it possible Yes created stuff like Going For The One which is really good and contains long pieces. |
I wouldn't go spreading your oppinion about Gates too loudly in this forum young Luke, you might find yourself tied to a telegraph pole wearing nothing but your undies...
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thank you for saying i'm young, that's really nice someone finally said that. Gates would be really good if it had concept, progress and music... instead of that we got collection of sounds, pretty good collection but still just sounds.
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Jared
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:22 |
Luke wrote:
Gates Of Delirium is even worse than Tales. i wonder how is it possible Yes created stuff like Going For The One which is really good and contains long pieces. |
I wouldn't go spreading your oppinion about Gates too loudly in this forum young Luke, you might find yourself tied to a telegraph pole wearing nothing but your undies...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:06 |
Gates Of Delirium is even worse than Tales. i wonder how is it possible Yes created stuff like Going For The One which is really good and contains long pieces.
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Logos
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:04 |
Sorry but you're wrong.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:01 |
^ Gates Of Delirium can!
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Logos
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 06:52 |
There are never too many Yes epics! And on the other hand, nothing can outshadow the brilliance of Close to the Edge.
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Jared
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 06:37 |
Cinema wrote:
Ty1020 wrote:
Depends what you consider an epic. Personally, when I think of Yes' epics, the only three I really consider are Close to the Edge, The Gates of Delirium, and Awaken. If you count TFTO then I guess it gets somewhat excessive, but I prefer to think of the songs from that album as a whole piece of work rather than four seperate "epics". Regardless, the three I previously mentioned are among my favourite songs of all time.
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I agree completely. However, I would also add the following to the list of Yes epics:
-- Mind Drive
-- That That Is |
That's interesting you say that Cinema; I was thinking just the same thing before I got to your post....on the Keys album, they, along with 'Be The One' are the stand out tracks...the shorter ones really are substandard, and its the same with 'Homeworld' on The Ladder...maybe they are just more at home with the epics...so I'm not complaining!!
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Blacksword
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 04:16 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Seems a bit like saying Beethoven wrote too many symphonies to me!
(One underrated Yes epic is "Endless dream" from "Talk")
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'Endless Dream' is excellent, I agree. I think it's just anti Rabin feeling that closes many peoples minds to this track.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Easy Livin
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 03:49 |
Seems a bit like saying Beethoven wrote too many symphonies to me!
(One underrated Yes epic is "Endless dream" from "Talk")
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Cinema
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 03:22 |
Ty1020 wrote:
Depends what you consider an epic. Personally, when I
think of Yes'
epics, the only three I really consider are Close to the Edge, The
Gates of Delirium, and Awaken. If you count TFTO then I guess it gets
somewhat excessive, but I prefer to think of the songs from that album
as a whole piece of work rather than four seperate "epics". Regardless,
the three I previously mentioned are among my favourite songs of all
time.
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I agree completely. However, I would also add the following to the list of
Yes epics:
-- Mind Drive
-- That That Is
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Ty1020
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 00:34 |
Depends what you consider an epic. Personally, when I think of Yes'
epics, the only three I really consider are Close to the Edge, The
Gates of Delirium, and Awaken. If you count TFTO then I guess it gets
somewhat excessive, but I prefer to think of the songs from that album
as a whole piece of work rather than four seperate "epics". Regardless,
the three I previously mentioned are among my favourite songs of all
time.
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Damen
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 00:32 |
fender101 wrote:
Now don't kill me, I love Yes and I think their music is just as whimsical as it is brillient however I cant help feeling they have done just too many epics. I think they have diminished the importance of their epics by making so many of them. When I think of other great prog bands their epics are always the ones that stick out as brillient (Pink Floyd, Genesis, ELP etc).
Yes has done so many that they just dont jump out as major highlights of their career which i think truly shows that they have made some bad ones which is the total opposite of what an epic should be(tales esp).
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Tales isn't supposed to be taken as an epic, it's a concept album, and a fine one at that in my opinion.
I honestly don't think they've ever put out a "bad" epic, but hell, i'm a huge Yes fan, so i'm biased
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"It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days."
-Chris Squire
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fender101
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 00:28 |
Now don't kill me, I love Yes and I think their music is just as whimsical as it is brillient however I cant help feeling they have done just too many epics. I think they have diminished the importance of their epics by making so many of them. When I think of other great prog bands their epics are always the ones that stick out as brillient (Pink Floyd, Genesis, ELP etc).
Yes has done so many that they just dont jump out as major highlights of their career which i think truly shows that they have made some bad ones which is the total opposite of what an epic should be(tales esp).
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Well McGarnical Billy is dead! They slit his throat from ear to ear!
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