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decypher
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 22:03 |
pogoowner wrote:
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mark zonder is fantastic, very unique and orignial, at the front
of the row with mike portnoy (and of course rick colaluca!!!!).
yours,
perfect symmetry
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bartok
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 21:59 |
When was the last time Peart used the "4 miles long" roll? It's been decades, hasn't it?
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DarHobo
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 21:31 |
floydaholic wrote:
DarHobo wrote:
I think Peart is overrated, I am a drummer myself and the solo to YYZ isn't that amazing, its average. I mean, seriously most of his ability comes with the fact that he has a huge set. All he has to do is do a standard roll 4 miles long from one side of his set on the 2" tom and end it on the other side on his 60" inch floor tom, and there ya' go the classic peart sound.
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I disagree. He is pretty damn skilled to play such a large set well. Though he doesn't use cymbals as much as the more skilled jazz drummers do he has more drum pieces than they do and makes good use of them. He is an incredible rock drummer.
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Yes he is a great drummer, but with the set thing, I know this guy who truely sucks at drums but now he has about a 10 piece and because of the huge set can sound decent. Becasue more is there, there is more to roll on. He can now just hit each tom in a 2 stroke succession from high to low and make a decent sounding roll because there is so much, but if he was on a standard 5-piece, thats another story.
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floydaholic
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 21:00 |
DarHobo wrote:
I think Peart is overrated, I am a drummer myself and the solo to YYZ isn't that amazing, its average. I mean, seriously most of his ability comes with the fact that he has a huge set. All he has to do is do a standard roll 4 miles long from one side of his set on the 2" tom and end it on the other side on his 60" inch floor tom, and there ya' go the classic peart sound.
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I disagree. He is pretty damn skilled to play such a large set well. Though he doesn't use cymbals as much as the more skilled jazz drummers do he has more drum pieces than they do and makes good use of them. He is an incredible rock drummer.
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I'll see you on the Darkside of the moon...
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 20:59 |
Damen wrote:
ulver982 wrote:
but even better then all, the drummer in the White Stripes. She's crazy on the drums...watch out neil!
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I hope that's sarcasm
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That band is NOT about the drums....it fits the song, and if she's so bad, what should she do to make it sound "better"?
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DarHobo
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 20:49 |
I think Peart is kinda overrated, I am a drummer myself and the solo to YYZ isn't that amazing, it's good, but Peart is blown up into God-like proportion becasue of it. I mean, seriously most of his ability comes with the fact that he has a huge set. All he has to do is do a standard roll 4 miles long from one side of his set on the 2" tom and end it on the other side on his 60" inch floor tom, and there ya' go the classic peart sound.
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bartok
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 20:26 |
My favorites have to be Peart, Bruford, Moerlen, Gadd, and Coliauta. (Although I love DeJohnette's cymbal work and Copeland's syncopation)
Can't say anything bad about Cobham, but I don't think he's as great as some people apparently do, but then I kind of like the more angular drummers, and Cobham strikes me as too straight-forward (albeit powerful).
As far as the "next" Neil Peart, I think it's a misguided question. What makes the Pearts, Brufords, or Bonhams of the world great is their unique style and personality. The next great drummer will have his (or her) own unique style.
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Biggles
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 15:10 |
DallasBryan wrote:
Neil adds up to a pimple on the PROGRESSIVE BUTT of Billy Cobham, Phil Collins, Furio Cherico, Jaki Liebezeit, Carl Palmer, Airto Moreira and Michael Shrieve - SOME GREAT PROGRESSIVE PERCUSSIONISTS! |
I wouldn't really call Michael Shrieve progressive, although he's an incredible drummer.
I'll have to see if I can download some Peart videos. Maybe then I'll see what this is all about...
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The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.
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walrus
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 14:18 |
Zak starkey hhaha
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you and whose army?
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hukt on fonikzz
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 13:55 |
Shack Man wrote:
being overrated is not an opinion, neil peart lived up
to his glory, and you can't just say he is overrated because you prefer
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how is it not an opinion "i think neil peart is overrated"
it isnt a fact is it? or can you somehow answer that question for me...
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there is no spoon...
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Shack Man
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 13:46 |
being overrated is not an opinion, neil peart lived up to his glory, and you can't just say he is overrated because you prefer other drummers.
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Extraordinary how potent cheap music is...
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hukt on fonikzz
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 13:35 |
King of Loss wrote:
hukt on fonikzz wrote:
spectral wrote:
You can never call Peart overrated. Just check out YYZ or O Baterista to realise why he is a legend.
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mm yes you can...he is amazing of course i agree to
that, but you cant reely compare him to some other drummers in terms of
who is better than who. for me peart is one of the best in his
style...for ex. chris pennie of DEP play much more ferociously but at
the same time just as technical, peart could probably never do some of
the stuff he does, and vise versa for someone like john theodore
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But Chris Pennie of DEP has no melody, I saw DEP and the band as a whole totally, totally SUCKED! |
and your entitled to your opinion, as am i.
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there is no spoon...
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porter
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 06:05 |
limeyrob wrote:
Rush overated - ergo Peart overated.
What's all this about YYZ? Is he only famous for one track on an overated album?
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what?!?! have you ever listened to his work with a CRITIC EAR? Peart is a GREAT drummer, he ALWAYS astonishes me, in every single song I hear. He's so passionate and so precise at the same time, he has one of the best drum sounds I've ever heard, so clean and so powerful, technical but with warmth. He may not be the BEST drummer in the world but he IS among the greatest.
Rush overrated? don't see how...
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"my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III")
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limeyrob
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 03:27 |
Rush overated - ergo Peart overated.
What's all this about YYZ? Is he only famous for one track on an overated album?
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cobb
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:36 |
Biggles wrote:
You know, I've been listening to Peart, but I honestly
can't see what all the hype is about. Maybe it's because I'm not a
drummer so I can't really make an accurate judgement of how good
someone is, but I think Peart pales in comparison to someone like, say,
Billy Cobham. In fact, I never thought Rush as a whole had an
overwhelming amount of technique, although admittedly the Geddy
Lee does pull some cool stuff on "YYZ." |
I am not a drummer either- you have to watch him to see what all the hype is about. Amazing
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Damen
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:34 |
ulver982 wrote:
but even better then all, the drummer in the White Stripes. She's crazy on the drums...watch out neil!
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I hope that's sarcasm
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"It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days."
-Chris Squire
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:29 |
R.Darkmoon wrote:
+dreamtheater+ wrote:
who is mark zonder |
A drummer!
Anyway, Spiral Architect's drummer is really good. I would say the battle for the next Peart is between Portnoy and Spiral Architect's
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I concur.
Spiral Architect are gods. People on here should talk more about them!
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ulver982
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:27 |
Hellhammer!!!!!!!!
but even better then all, the drummer in the White Stripes. She's crazy on the drums...watch out neil!
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Improvement makes straight roads, but the crooked roads without improvement, are roads of genius.
Silence is the music of the future.
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el böthy
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 21:46 |
mmm...what about the drummer from franz ferdinand??? hahahahaha...now thats being a bad drummer!!!!
hehehehe, well now, I also nomite Portnoy...but Im sure there must be some other excellent drummers out there from whom I have never heard of...
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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floydaholic
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 21:35 |
Nick Mason
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I'll see you on the Darkside of the moon...
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