Blind Faith

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   Personally, I think that Cream had a bigger influence on prog...at least one particular band that I kind of like a bit.    I tend to be more inclusive than the general population, but I also see the point that you can make the case for many, many bands that existed in the 60's and 70's that they are at least prog-related and lines need to be drawn somewhere.  Elton John, Billy Joel, The Bee Gees, Abba, Dire Straits, etc... all flirted with prog here and there at times.  I still strongly believe that Judas Priest should be here, but the bosses overruled and c'est la vie.

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rushfan4 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66588	Posted: September 17 2015 at 15:21
	Personally, I think that Cream had a bigger influence on prog...at least one particular band that I kind of like a bit. I tend to be more inclusive than the general population, but I also see the point that you can make the case for many, many bands that existed in the 60's and 70's that they are at least prog-related and lines need to be drawn somewhere. Elton John, Billy Joel, The Bee Gees, Abba, Dire Straits, etc... all flirted with prog here and there at times. I still strongly believe that Judas Priest should be here, but the bosses overruled and c'est la vie.


Raff Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429	Posted: September 17 2015 at 15:14
	The current rule was enforced to avoid controversy - which is always rife when prog-related or proto-prog acts are added. I think you have seen a couple of threads around about Iron Maiden and Queen - almost a decade after they were added - and in the past the backlash was often anything but pretty. Moreover, people are always ready with the eternal question, "if X is here, why not Y?", and that also has the potential to turn ugly - as some people seem to think that "controversial" additions are as relevant in the grand scheme of things as war or famine. On a personal level, though I like the Blind Faith album a whole lot, I am not sure it's truly prog-related, and then its addition would have people demanding for Cream to be added. So, you see, it's not an easy decision to make.

aglasshouse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 27 2014 Location: riding the MOAB Status: Offline Points: 1505	Posted: September 17 2015 at 15:08
	Hey man, I think Dire Straits is good enough as well. But I was thinking not only does Blind Faith have Eric Clapton but also Steve Winwood, leaning more towards a prog related addition than Dire Straits who would take more technicalities to be added.
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SteveG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617	Posted: September 17 2015 at 15:03
	Yes, but the hassle usually comes with this scenario: I feel that Dire Straits should be included as prog related, but if they include Blind Faith than I and other Dire Straits fans (as an example) would be upset. So it takes a lot to get listed in this site as prog related or as prog anything.

rushfan4 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66588	Posted: September 17 2015 at 15:03
	I will give the album a re-listen and see what I think. Personally, I've always felt that Cream should be here in proto-prog. Blind Faith may have a good case as well, but given they only had the one album, they may not be as influential to prog as the admins like.


aglasshouse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 27 2014 Location: riding the MOAB Status: Offline Points: 1505	Posted: September 17 2015 at 14:54
	Ah, thank you for clarifying. That makes a heck of a lot more sense. I sent Scott a message. I don't know if he'll respond but he might.
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Raff Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429	Posted: September 17 2015 at 14:53
	Of course you can suggest an addition. I believe you misunderstood the responses you got from Keishiro and the others. You just need to ask a SC to formally take your suggestion before the Admin Team, whose members are the only ones that can decide on Proto-Prog or Prog-Related additions. It is no different than suggesting a band in this thread, as any new suggestion has to be taken up by a genre team to be evaluated.

aglasshouse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 27 2014 Location: riding the MOAB Status: Offline Points: 1505	Posted: September 17 2015 at 14:37
	What is the point of not being able to suggest an artist? It's not like I can force anyone to add it, it's literally just a suggestion. I don't think that such a thing should be restricted because everyone has suggestions even if they aren't a collaborator. PMing them is basically the same as posting it on the forum except on the post everyone can see the suggestion and add their two-sense. Just saying.
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Atavachron Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65606	Posted: September 17 2015 at 01:44
	In other words PM a SpecColl to propose the addition to Admin for PR consideration. But they'd have to be an SC who believes the band should be Progrelated, which is another matter.
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Guldbamsen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104	Posted: September 17 2015 at 01:40
	What Keishiro is saying is that the only way into PA for Blind Faith is the Prog Related route. They've been suggested and rejected a couple of times before, but they have never been suggested for PR. ..........:aaaand the only ones who can suggest band for prog related are collaborators
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aglasshouse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 27 2014 Location: riding the MOAB Status: Offline Points: 1505	Posted: September 16 2015 at 18:11
	What do you mean? Message one to ask for the addition?
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DamoXt7942 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Joined: October 15 2008 Location: Okayama, Japan Status: Offline Points: 17493	Posted: September 16 2015 at 18:05
	They've been suggested a couple of times (e.g. here) and some of Team members consider they cannot be fit for any prog subgenre. Please ask to one of Special Collaborators if you suggest them as a Prog-Related one.


aglasshouse Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 27 2014 Location: riding the MOAB Status: Offline Points: 1505	Posted: September 16 2015 at 17:58
	A supergroup formed with Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood. To me they seem pretty prog and Winwood brings out the eclectic from Traffic. Thought it would be a good addition.
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