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Catcher10
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Posted: December 23 2014 at 12:14 |
There are no true "prog" bands anymore....but Rush comes as close as any band right now. Most are crossover bands that are heavy into electronic, indie, alternative, rock........
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: December 23 2014 at 12:10 |
Go-Gong!
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Hercules
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Posted: December 23 2014 at 11:58 |
Argonaught wrote:
^ Yep, the PA-pulation in general treats Rush as a top tier prog band, which it, quite frankly, is not. Despite all the good work they have done throughout the past 40 years. |
Of course Rush is a top tier prog band.
Sales, longevity, influence - they qualify on all counts as top flight.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: December 23 2014 at 10:02 |
Argonaught wrote:
^ Yep, the PA-pulation in general treats Rush as a top tier prog band, which it, quite frankly, is not. Despite all the good work they have done throughout the past 40 years. |
Well judging by the amount of fanboys, polls and assorted threads having to do with Rush I've seen over the years, then they should be winning by a landslide. Maybe they're all on holiday somewhere faaaaaaar away from Santa mania and all those mad people (mostly mothers I guess) who go absolutely ape-feces over important issues such as gravy thickness, ornamentations, gift wrapping paper, sweets and how the family will react to the cleanliness of the windows
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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Friday13th
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Posted: December 23 2014 at 09:52 |
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Argonaught
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Posted: December 23 2014 at 06:35 |
^ Yep, the PA-pulation in general treats Rush as a top tier prog band, which it, quite frankly, is not. Despite all the good work they have done throughout the past 40 years.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: December 23 2014 at 06:11 |
WTF!?!?!! Gong still in the lead? I did not expect that Pretty chuffed about it though
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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Flight123
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Posted: December 23 2014 at 05:23 |
Unlike Rush, Gong has given us a musical family: Steve Hillage/System 7, Didier Malherbe, Mother Gong, New York Gong, Tim Blake, etc. etc. to name but a few, not to mention the wonderful jazz fusion that the band evolved into under Pierre Moerlen's leadership which drew in Mike Oldfield among other leading musicians. Rush, on the other hand, from the early 80s continued to produce albums of increasing mediocrity. There is simply no contest (especially on a prog forum).
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digdug
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Posted: December 22 2014 at 07:07 |
love Gong
but
RUSH
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Prog On!
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Argonaught
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Posted: December 22 2014 at 05:34 |
^ 25 posts to go ..
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qwiksand
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Posted: December 22 2014 at 05:31 |
Saperlipopette! wrote:
ˆI think you need to post 50 times first |
Ah, ok, thanks for the info.
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proggman
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 21:28 |
Rush.
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When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
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micky
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 18:29 |
Drew wrote:
If Gong wins, I lose a lot of respect for users on this site |
pffff do you really think people here care about respect of our fellow members you are talking about the same forum in which Camel, a 2nd rate generic prog group, has beaten ELP. TWICE!! A forum that is, has, and likely always will vote for 2nd class English language prog over 1st rate foreign language prog. Seriously man... what respect is there left TO lose. A source of entertainment this place is, but definitely not the fountain of good solid objective thought.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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MFP
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 17:51 |
Gong
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 17:42 |
ˆI think you need to post 50 times first
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qwiksand
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 15:40 |
qwiksand wrote:
Gong by a mile! |
Hmm, having posted this I notice that I am unable to vote in this poll (or any others!). Is this a function of my 'newbiness' and/or small number of posts? As I couldn't see it in the FAQ, can someone inform me of the criteria for being allowed to vote?
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Raff
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 15:37 |
Argonaught wrote:
Raff wrote:
Very well said. You would make an ideal language student - which is not always the case with your fellow Americans. |
Once I have worked through my post-divorce financial misery (tentatively expected by mid-2015 ), I would be interested in learning Italian .. I love the fact that it's phonetic and feels unisex, and doesn't involve making unpleasant sounds .. unless I am deluding myself .
Do they also teach the art of Italian gesticulation ibidem? |
I generally do ....
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Argonaught
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 15:32 |
Raff wrote:
Very well said. You would make an ideal language student - which is not always the case with your fellow Americans. |
Once I have worked through my post-divorce financial misery (tentatively expected by mid-2015 ), I would be interested in learning Italian .. I love the fact that it's phonetic and feels unisex, and doesn't involve making unpleasant sounds .. unless I am deluding myself .
Do they also teach the art of Italian gesticulation ibidem?
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 15:01 |
Drew wrote:
If Gong wins, I lose a lot of respect for users on this site |
Seriously?
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Raff
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 14:42 |
Argonaught wrote:
Raff wrote:
[who won't touch anything in a language other than English with the proverbial ten-foot pole seems to have dwindled to almost nothing. |
The language of music is universal. AFAIC, the less chatter (in what ever tongue), the better What I would not touch even with a barge pole is English language lyrics that were written and/or sung by someone who did it for commercial purposes only, without a compelling emotional reason for doing so. My favorite (and very negative) example would be Garota D' Ipanema "translated", or rather re-written into English for facilitating the US sales. As the result, The Girl From Ipanema words in English sounds corny and stale.
I looked up the original lyrics, picked up a few dozen Portuguese words, learned how to pronounce them, and guess what - I am glad I did. Stimulation and learning new things is what keeps your brain alive. Besides, I felt like I had a unique chance to peek into the long gone Carioca world of the early 1960s.
I would encourage all songwriters outside of the Anglosphere to consider writing poetry in the language they are most comfortable with, to keep it genuine and eloquent. As for the listeners .. online translators are free to use and they are getting better, so no-one is going to die if a band sings in Norwegian or Italian.
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Very well said . You would make an ideal language student - which is not always the case with your fellow Americans.
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