Do you support universal healthcare?

I value the rights of people to not have money stolen from them regardless of the reason no matter how noble it is perceived to be. 

I had to search around the website a bit to find what you were referring to with them being unable to afford it, but what I found (that most of their hospitals are operating in the red) seems to be avoidable simply by not taking price control to such an extreme.

Or, if need be, with government provided money to hospitals that obey the rules and end up in the red. Same idea of taxing the people who can afford it to help those who can't.


If you were referring to something else, you will need to point me in the right direction.


edit: I was not saying that we should necessarily adopt the Japanese system. I am simply saying that there are fairer, better systems out there than ours, and we should adopt some sort of system akin to one of them (whichever one will work best for a country like the US). As it stands, we have a really terrible health care system for how powerful and wealthy we are, and it needs to be fixed. I do not presume to have the knowledge to know how exactly it ought to be fixed. I simply find it impossible to believe that something which works for so many other countries (to varying degrees) would magically not work here.

Edited by The Antique - August 31 2009 at 01:06

The T wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: I don't even support Medicaid and Medicare.    You basically support death.... (not the band...)     Let the old rot, let the poor die....   Now THAT's the sign of an advanced civilization.....

I read something like 50% of the money spent on medical care in a persons entire life is spent in the last year of their life (on average of course).  Personally when I'm old and dying I sure hope the government isnt paying that much to keep me alive that extra year, that would be a waste of taxpayer money.  If I've saved enough and that extra time is worth enough to me, then I'll pay for the care, but if the government ever tries to do it for me I'd probably just refuse.

Or people could willingly give their money to help others which would actually involve some level of compassion rather than the majority rule stealing money from the unwilling to be put in the hands of a doomed to failed government bureaucracy which now has the power to determine based on some abstract "common good" argument who deserves what care and who does not.

Edited by Equality 7-2521 - August 30 2009 at 23:27

Equality 7-2521 wrote: I don't even support Medicaid and Medicare.

J-Man wrote: No. Not at all. Why should I have to pay for other people's problems? Next thing that's coming is communism. I'm watching Obama destroy America one bill at a time.

Yes No Maybe So?

Perhaps we could rename the thread 'Do you support universal healthcare in America?'

Damn, I never should have posted in this thread. After I post in these threads everyone hates me

Oh, and by the way; are you forgetting about what's happening in Canada? People there are getting denied what they need and coming here. What's going to happen to us when WE are denied a surgery or a doctor's visit because the government can't afford it?

And believe me. Healthcare doesn't seem like communism at all. It's happened with other countries. The government takes control of one business, and then slowly it will take away all of our freedom, and what makes America what it is.