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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18340 |
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This kinda defeats the whole thing, and in some ways, it was a fair criticism that Guy had about me ... because I wanted the music, too!
The show, for all intents and purposes, was a "movie" from beginning to end, and separating the parts of the movie, broke it up into nothing. Having the music, is of course, what radio is about! He DID have a promo that said "like a foreign movie without the sub-titles" and I think that is appropriate, specially when you stop at a Foreign Film Festival and you can see how many folks DON'T go to foreigh films, and instead go see all the American, and English films ... excuse me, here in Portland they will go if Pedro Almodovar shows up!
There are a lot of things in these, that are difficult to identify, because Guy himself also did many sound effects and fun things that ended up in the midst of the music, and might not necessarily be an album at all. Adding these on top of an album, with the tv or some foreign radio behind it, made it even more foreign and interesting to listen to, which was a nice touch, all around. He also had a friend that had a nice synthesizer and I can not tell you how much he and that friend played with it, and recorded, but it would be very much like Guy to go find out and fool around on it and do something strange/weird/different/funny ... !!!
It is one of the things that is missing in "radio", yesterday and today, that will never be there again! The most radio can do is 3 teacher songs back to back ... wooowwwww ... before the next commercial! Oh, wait, I just heard one of those DAW radio stations with the same beat for 4 hours, and someone just throwing sound effects forwards and backwards and no music! How intelectual that sounds! Maybe listening to the turkeys at KUFO here in Portland is better! Radio is dead! Long live Guy!
I just don't think that Guy is interested in radio, or some of its morons and megalomaniacs! And Xirius and the other one are just more of the same corporate bullmerde selling only their stuff. They would never be man enough to give Guy 10 minutes!
AND this is the part that a board like this will have a hard time dealing with. You can't hear just the music.
You have to have the song or the album, and if there was an experience with it ... IT'S GONE! In some cases, the music is even better because of his show!
The context with which, the stuff is shown and heard, makes the difference about it all!
Unlike many radio and internet folks out there, none of them, have the conceptual ability to do anything anywhere as good or entertaining as Guy did ... though it changed somewhat and I find the shows I heard from 1995 sounding morelike radio, but still different! The early days were massively "out there", and as such much more valuable and fun to listen to.
No one here, other than us, has any idea, what we are talking about. And sadly, they NEVER will know, because Guy's wishes are to not show or share these. Edited by moshkito - November 02 2013 at 15:44 |
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dmastous ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 04 2008 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Here's the link:
Pretty rudimentary. The files are low quality mono MP3s. They should play in your browser, or you can download them and play them on your computer.
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Nada One ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: February 25 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 22 |
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![]() I have been searching to find anyone that remembered SPR for decades now and even sections of a playlist seemed beyond hope. I'm jazzed that you are considering doing this at all. When I mentioned the tangerine tree I was alluding to putting together a similar work, but of SPR playlists. Please post a link when you think it's ready. For now I'm content to follow Guy's blog when time permits. I'm very glad he started that. I am especially pleased that he is posting David Fontana's work. Perhaps you can get Guy's OK to use Dave's art on your page. Edited by Nada One - October 28 2013 at 23:29 |
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dmastous ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 04 2008 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Well, I created the page (rudimentally anyway), and wanted to link it to my current SPR page, but had no real inspiration to redesign the current 15 year old page (here: http://www.mastous.net/spr.html). After a couple of weeks of no inspiration, I also got no replies to my comment, so I kind of let it go.
I'm trying to post it now as a standalone, but I'm now having difficulty logging into my site. It may take a couple days to sort this out. I'll send the link when it's posted.
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Nada One ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: February 25 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 22 |
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dmastous, would you please post a link to your SPR page?
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dmastous ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 04 2008 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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So I've gone through all the shows I have with Shazam, in addition to SoundHound, and Google Music Search. With all three I was able to identify about 80% of the unidentified songs. I'm down to about 300+ songs unidentified.
Many thanks for the suggestion. I thought about doing that, but didn't think the program would encompass more than the most popular and most recent music.
In the process I discovered many new songs, artists and options to add to my musical pallat. I've purchased the songs I like, and updated the SPR songs on my Ipod and I'm listening now to Sadistic Mika Band's Kurofume Kai (a long ago identified song from my initial SPR recordings) nesting along with Solution's Chappaqua (another song from both my missing tapes, and my new shows, now IDed thanks to SoundHound), and about 650 other wonderful SPR type songs.
Thanks for suggestion Shazam and other programs of it's Ilk.
Now I've created low quality mono versions of the unidentified songs, and will post them on my web site's SPR page and send a link to see if anyone can ID the remaining songs. Then I will post the playlists at some point.
Shazam was definitley the best at Identifiying Prog-Rock, but SoundHound was better at new wave. Google search was a very distant third, but once in awhile it would come up with a song the other two couldn't. You'd think with Google's resouces they could make it better, but no such luck there.
The only real issue I had was Shazam, and to a lesser extent Google, suggesting recent songs, more or less throwing them out as possiblilies. SoundHound was definitely better at accuarcy. When it IDed a song, that was the song. Shazam was the worst.
Anyway, I'll be working the web pages over the next few weeks or months, and link to them when I'm done. Time for some work on the SPR page anyway. It's been too long neglected.
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Blobfish ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: February 23 2012 Location: Gulf of Mexico Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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Nada, SP wit, cheers. Guy spitting Tangerine Dream seeds from the 9th floor of the Granada, planting Porcupine Trees in San Luis Obliss...
oh so do miss, the radar blips n' flounder flips on the channel islands. Swimmingly, Blobfish
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"Everyone has a time machine. The ones that take you back are memories; and the ones that take you forward are dreams." H.G. Wells
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dmastous ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 04 2008 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Not sure what that would entail. I have a lot of TD. All as MP3's. Many live shows from the previous Tangerine Trees.
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Nada One ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: February 25 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 22 |
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Sweet! Like uncovering buried treasure.
Still interested in planting the Tangerine Tree? |
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dmastous ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 04 2008 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Already downloaded and started using it. Going back through all the shows like a fanatic. I also found a program called SoundHound that is pretty good. Shazam seems to be better, but both are good. Google also has a music search tool that isn't as good as the previous tool, but it too works once in a while. Bottom line; I have gone through 6 shows and identified all but perhaps a half dozen songs (a couple I think I know, but I'm not sure about). Looking good for a significant upgrade of my playlists. I've also discovered and downloaded some new music, and that's also positive. Back to the grind....
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Nada One ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: February 25 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 22 |
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Blobfish, you have the wit of Guy himself!
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Nada One ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: February 25 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 22 |
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Shazam is available for android phones.
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dmastous ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 04 2008 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Not really an Apple guy. I'm not anything guy, but I don't like walled gardens. They are beautiful, but constraining. I've had Android phones since they started. Don't know if Shazam is available on the Android platform, but I'll look for it.
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spacemissing ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: July 31 2008 Status: Offline Points: 11 |
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My last post was in July of 2010?
Seems like a long time ago now...
During my visit with Guy last night,
he thought I had posted something in March of this year.
Turned out to be a case of mistaken user identity.
Back in 2010, I made a video of the SPR album playing on a turntable.
Later, I gave Guy a copy of it.
After watching it, he said I should post it on YouTube.
There has been some trouble with getting that to happen.
When / if it is ever succesfully uploaded,
I hope I will remember to mention it in this forum.
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Nada One ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: February 25 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 22 |
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Forget Google! I just started using a free Apple app called "Shazam" that samples melodies quite well. It enabled me to find a song taped from SPR: Ryuichi Sakamoto called Paradise Lost, among others. Paradise Lost - Ryuichi Sakamoto (Album: Illustrated Musical Encyclopedia) Ribbed and Viened - Cocteau Twins (Album: Lullabies to Violaine) Folkstone Hovercraft - Space Art (Album: Playback) ![]() |
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18340 |
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The only list I have for a show in 1982 was from March 7. I was too busy at UCSB to be able to keep up with the show as much with work and school.
Phil Manzanera
Ad2 - Hijack
Jon & Vangelis - Friends of Mr. Cairo
Bungles
Romne (spelling -- not sure who this was)
Gary Numan
David Bowie
Trianna
Guy3 - Bijou Movie Palace
Gilly Smith - Mother Gong
Mike Oldfield - 5 Miles Out
Klaus Schoning
Wapassou
Catherine Ribeiro
Guy3 - Mouth Radio Theater
Ralph Lundsten - Nature Symphony #2
I have to re-listen, as there is a comedy bit I missed ... something about pain and art.
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18340 |
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Not from me. I still have my copies of the album. Can't believe that someone is selling that ... I bet that what hurts is that the price is not even what Guy is worth, and should be getting paid ... !!! ![]() Edited by moshkito - January 17 2013 at 16:04 |
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18340 |
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Listening to it on Gibraltar Point one windy night as the wind hits the hills and mountains and Jane and other bands play through ... yeah ... who needs squid when you got stars, right? On a clear night, too!
Edited by moshkito - January 19 2013 at 14:06 |
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18340 |
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(cleaned up to take out typos and some errors courtesy of the Guy himself! 05/21/2013) It has been one of the things that has been difficult to bring about, as an understanding to "what" became known as "progressive music" later ... and the idea/fact, that the FM band radio that was barely started, was big in allowing the longer cuts and eventually helped define a lot of this music ...
Today, it's all internet, and is highly visible, whereas in those days, things were not ... so someone playing it was important ... and at least for the 8 years I listened to this, I know that Guy fought hard to do it, and had to put up with a lot of serious BS from the station ... up to and including folks blatantly saying they had done something that Guy had done, instead!
It was "new radio", and not many FM radios were even sold that early ... and the "stereo" thing really hit home in the early 70's and Guy is a part of it.
But putting something like this, and a "story", if not "history" of progressive music ... even in a place like ProgArchives, is, sadly, a dead end. ProgArchives is a DATABASE, not an Encyclopaedia, per Dean's words, and that means that history will never be important where a database is the God and neither will how so much of this music came about, and why. And, of course, doing this about Guy might be impossible ... there are too many things that I'm sure he would like to forget and not talk about ... I guess that we all have a little skeleton in the back somewhere ... but goodness ... isn't it what the Enquirer and all those are about! AND, they make you "famous"? BTW, I really miss those articles on the News-Press! We need more articles!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18340 |
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(updated/cleaned up 05/21/2013 -- had some ... errors inadvertantly like a banana was not Paul!)
The only way I will share anything from the shows I have (listening to one right now -- 11/14/1977), is with WRITTEN permission by Guy himself. Him and I are not on the same page, for some reason, and he won't email, call or discuss much of anything, even the pet rocks on Fifth and Hill! Even Paul will not share shows with me, which I would very gladly trade him for ... so we could end up with a larger library all around. Guy might have a list of things, although I do not recall ever seeing one, other than the complete list of his comedy bits which he had on reel to reel tape at the time, I believe. Again, as I said before, when it comes to "imports" and the Southern California area, there are two people that are "the authority" for it. Guy is one, and the other is Archie Patterson. Archie, has shared a lot of his views since 1972 in Eurock, and Guy remains kinda quiet about it all, though his stories about his time and radio, still show up now and then on his blog. Comedy? ... only Guy had it ... available for a nickel by the panhandling hobo on his hourlies!
I was out of the loop by 1982, when I moved north .. had enough of Santa Barbara, UCSB, and not happy days all around after Ingrid left.
Note: On a recent "blog", Senor Jesus de Santa Barbara, posted that St Peter should stop talking about having paying rent, or buying gas ... when Senor Jesus was broke ... it was no big deal for me, but obviously has caused some interesting embarrassment to his gray hairs. St. Peter has never been embarrassed about helping Senor Guidissimo get his LP, and even a T-shirt to add to his wardrobe, but Mr. Lance Princely Gudstrong, seems to have a failing memory for some days, that were sad, when Senor Jesus de Santa Barbara was not selected to play the Fool, but the rest was the sunshine with a little excursion for a film, or music ... geee ... we can always have a fun talk about ... Ventura Highway ... in the sunshine ... sure ... tell me you don't remember! That car, by the way, lasted all the way to 1984 when I gave it away to one of the dishwashers I had in Pendleton for $50 bux. Geee ... how about fun stories ... one ugly Volvo and a coat hanger ... one on the steering wheel and the other on the coat hanger ... and we got back ... gosh ... can't even remember the film we saw on that one, but we got our Melody Makers on that bookstore on 5th and Hill ... ohh yeah ... and those bucket seats still were the best EVER!
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