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Guldbamsen 
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 Posted: October 08 2014 at 04:43 |
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I'm mostly about the groove when it comes to drummers. That and feel. That's why I love Jaki Liebezeit from Can and SBB's mr groovehouse Jerzy Piotrowski. While both of these guys are incredibly dexterous and skilled, they rely much more on the feel of the drums - the real pows in your tummy.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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uduwudu
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Posted: October 08 2014 at 02:48 |
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I read Bill's autobiog. He came across as quite self deprecating, down to earth and humourous. His book is one I recommend to any muso of any sort out there.
Both are absolutely fine masters of the kit.
My favourite drummer is Bonzo for the essential groove and sound. But in prog we do not like groove do we? ;) Outside of groove I keep thinking of Carl Palmer's work in KE9 part 3.
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 12:10 |
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Bruford is certainly the grand master emeritus, in'nent he.
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O666
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 10:53 |
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Bruford a bit more.
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 10:12 |
 Progosopher wrote:
Preference: Peart.
Influence: Bruford.
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The other way round for me.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 09:24 |
If we're talking influence, then it's got to be Peart simply because more people know him. If we were talking two equally "famous" drummers, then the poll would've been more fair. As it is, I think members are voting for the one who was the most influential on prog bands, not bands as a whole, and I'm not even sure they're right in that respect either. Peart's double bass pedals are today the bread and butter for 100s of prog metal bands, and that's not including the bands who just infuse a wee bit of metal into their sound, though often through the usage of the Peart signature footwork. Oh and I much prefer Bruford.
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bloodnarfer
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 09:16 |
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I'm not sure about the drumming community as a whole, but bruford influences my style more and I enjoy his drumming by a very large margin
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 09:08 |
sleeper wrote:
As far as influential goes it's got to be Peart, a considerably larger number of people, going way beyond just prog fans, have heard Neil Peart whilst Bill Bruford is effectively a jazz drummer playing rock, not something that has caught on too much.
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From my point of wiev it's almost the opposite. I guess we're both right and wrong. Jazz drummer's playing rock; there's many thousands of them out there and going way beyond prog of course. I don't know much about drummers influenced by Peart but I guess if every drummer playing prog Metal is, there's obviously quite a few.
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twosteves
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 08:53 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
twosteves wrote:
No doubt Yes influenced Rush--also think Perth is overrated like Rush is. |
Bill Bruford is a f  prick. Great drummer but a prick. Neil carries himself a lot better too. Influence goes to Bill but Peart is just better in my opinion. How can a band with a huge imprint and impact in music be overrated? Does not make sense |
I met Bill and he was a really cool gentleman---(met Fripp too and HE was a prick)---He's more educated than most rock stars and attended private schools so he has a way of expressing himself that comes off as snobby--in prog--your taste comes from metal so of course you like Neil---my taste comes from jazz so of course I love Bill. 
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Billy Pilgrim
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 02:16 |
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^^ Peart seems like an incredibly nice dude, Brufford does kinda seem like a prick. Personality aside, peart is still more skilled, and Rush's influence is stamped all over the entire world of music. Can't believe he's not winning both sides of this poll.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 02:08 |
twosteves wrote:
No doubt Yes influenced Rush--also think Perth is overrated like Rush is. |
Bill Bruford is a f prick. Great drummer but a prick. Neil carries himself a lot better too. Influence goes to Bill but Peart is just better in my opinion. How can a band with a huge imprint and impact in music be overrated? Does not make sense
Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - October 06 2014 at 02:09
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Ignorance is strength.”
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"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Posted: October 05 2014 at 13:24 |
Influence:Bill Bruford Preference: Neil Peart
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sleeper
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Posted: October 05 2014 at 05:11 |
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As far as influential goes it's got to be Peart, a considerably larger number of people, going way beyond just prog fans, have heard Neil Peart whilst Bill Bruford is effectively a jazz drummer playing rock, not something that has caught on too much.
As for preference, Peart is as dull as ditch water whilst Bruford is one of my favourite drummers.
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richardh
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Posted: October 05 2014 at 03:28 |
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I split my vote as Bruford being more influential but I prefer Peart a little bit more. Hiseman , Collins and Palmer are also on the same level though.Arguably Carl Palmer was the most influential of the lot. Tarkus and Pictures set the benchmark for all prog drummers.
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rogerthat
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Posted: October 04 2014 at 23:10 |
Off hand I cannot recall any prog rock drummers with a style similar to Bruford's. He was one of the most distinct, especially the snare. When I hear White play the fills of Heart of the Sunrise, it's just not the same. And Bruford's style could be recognised even when he moved to King Crimson to perform completely different music and experiment a lot more than in Yes. Whereas Peart has in fact been a huge influence on prog metal drummers, possibly also some extreme metal drummers like Gene Hoglan. But I actually prefer Stewart Copeland for that style of 'busy' drumming. It's roughly like Peart but a lot smoother, lot more fun (to my ears).
Hence voted Bruford for preference and Peart for influence.
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Posted: October 04 2014 at 23:05 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
<span style="line-height: 14.3999996185303px;">Honestly, I do not know which one is more influential, so no vote there. I'd prefer Buffalo Bill over Neil any day, and not just "a bit more".</span>
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Just what I was about to post too
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: October 04 2014 at 21:41 |
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Honestly, I do not know which one is more influential, so no vote there. I'd prefer Buffalo Bill over Neil any day, and not just "a bit more".
Edited by Dayvenkirq - October 04 2014 at 21:41
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Billy Pilgrim
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Posted: October 04 2014 at 16:49 |
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Peart for preferance and influeance. Bruffords great too though.
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addictedtoprog
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Posted: October 04 2014 at 14:26 |
dwill123 wrote:
Peart is the most over-rated drummer in the business. |
Guys..??? Is he correct???
I feel he's not..
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Wanorak
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Posted: October 04 2014 at 14:20 |
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Bruford on both counts.
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