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Warthur
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Posted: August 15 2011 at 05:29 |
Put me down for Queen. ELO took an album or two to get up to speed, and then their classic period is comparatively brief; Queen had their sound nailed down straight out of the gate and put out more top-flight albums than ELO ever did, in my book.
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Epignosis
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 22:43 |
Padraic wrote:
I'd pick virtually any musical act over ELO. So, yeah.
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As an ELO fan, I say Pat is foolish and needs to revisit ELO.
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Padraic
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 21:40 |
I'd pick virtually any musical act over ELO. So, yeah.
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Alitare
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 21:38 |
Of course Queen will win. I doubt anyone expects otherwise. I wholly prefer ELO, though. For one, Lynne did things with pop melodies that Freddie would've shat his panties over. Lynne did things with production. It's all opinions. I dunno why I'm wasting my time when all I'll do is contradict my stupid words, later.
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rogerthat
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 21:08 |
Not much into ELO, so no vote.
Anyway, Queen's style was anticipated by Sparks who did it WITHOUT the pastiche approach that Queen favoured in not only Bohemian..but many other well regarded songs like March of the Black Queen and went for 3-4 minute slabs of smart pop/rock instead. Sparks also tried many more things so it's not possible for me to hold Queen's compositional skills in the same high regard as I would have before. Yeah, mainly about the flamboyance of Mercury and May. And as much as I like Freddie's singing, he's NOT my favourite rock singer and is pretty weak when it comes to truly melancholic moments. His singing on the first section of Bohemian is overwrought but it works because of the band's generally campy style of music.
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himtroy
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 15:30 |
^^I agree, and showmanship has never been something I've cared about. Stop jumping around and play your instrument better
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Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance.
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giselle
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 15:06 |
TheLionOfPrague wrote:
giselle wrote:
I prefer ELO because Jeff Lynne is much superior songwriter to anything anyone in Queen can produce, and even though Queen are the superior musicians and a better group. |
Jeff Lynne is a great songwriter, but not better than Freddie.
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Freddie was a great singer and showman, but he couldn't write a song to save his life (!); the 'songs' he did write were amazingly old-fashioned (and camp!) for someone from a supposedly-heavy Rock group. Even the best piece he ever did - parts of 'Bohemian Rhapsody' - were snatches of good melody (but with meaningless lyrics) interspersed with trivial/mundane musical interludes heavily laced with bad taste which only a group peddling excess as a norm could get away with. So no, in my opinion Freddie wasn't even in the first league of songwriters, though he certainly had plenty going for him in other ways.
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himtroy
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 13:17 |
As much as I'm not really into ELO, I've heard a large portion of their music and never disliked any of it, though it's too poppy to be something I'd ever choose. However, I really don't care for anything I've heard by Queen. Their single most impact on my life is the Bohemian Rhapsody scene in Wayne's World. And I agree, Jeff Lynne's writing strikes me as superior to Freddy Mercury's, just so much more going on.
Also Jeff Lynne's voice destroys me....the Rain is Falling.
Edited by himtroy - August 14 2011 at 13:19
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Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
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TheLionOfPrague
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 12:33 |
giselle wrote:
I prefer ELO because Jeff Lynne is much superior songwriter to anything anyone in Queen can produce, and even though Queen are the superior musicians and a better group. |
Jeff Lynne is a great songwriter, but not better than Freddie.
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I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
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giselle
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 04:33 |
I prefer ELO because Jeff Lynne is much superior songwriter to anything anyone in Queen can produce, and even though Queen are the superior musicians and a better group.
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kevin4peace
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Posted: August 05 2011 at 01:44 |
I'll take ELO, just because they were more consistent to me. Queen had 4 writers, and sometimes wrote boring songs. Jeff Lynne, in my honest and seemingly unique opinion, never wrote a bad song.
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Nothing to say here. Nothing at all. Nothing is easy.
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The Truth
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Posted: August 21 2010 at 12:59 |
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
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This by a country mile.
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himtroy
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Posted: August 21 2010 at 12:57 |
ELO by a thousand miles. They have some AMAZING work (actually a lot of amazing work), some okay work, and some that I could take of leave.
Queen has a few good songs and a LOT of generic filler songs in my opinion. (I said in my opinion, before some fanboy goes off on me). And I never really saw the fascination with Queen other than Mercury having a good voice.
Also, ELO is a good prog rock band, Queen is a generic rock band that occasionally has moments that are debatably progressive.
Edited by himtroy - August 21 2010 at 12:59
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Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 21 2010 at 10:00 |
cocaine wrote:
Sorry, I was looking at the picture (with recent tracks and top artists from last.fm), and since AtomicCrimsonRush had pictures of Pink Floyd and Genesis I was reading too much into it.
My fault...
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Thats Ok cockaine.
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cocaine
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Posted: August 21 2010 at 08:51 |
Sorry, I was looking at the picture (with recent tracks and top artists from last.fm), and since AtomicCrimsonRush had pictures of Pink Floyd and Genesis I was reading too much into it.
My fault...
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 21 2010 at 08:37 |
cocaine wrote:
I think Snow Boy is a Genesis fan. Fair enough. I think I moved off track a little with the Beatles, Aginor with Roy (perhaps) and Snow Boy with Genesis.
(This thread was originally ELO-v-Queen)
But yes, to get to the last point, Roy Orbison was perhaps the greatest voice ever recorded (at least in non-classical music). Even Elvis said so... |
I never even mentioned Genesis. ELO suck imo...end of.
I presume you are referring to me. I may be wrong.
Edited by Snow Dog - August 21 2010 at 08:42
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cocaine
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Posted: August 21 2010 at 08:28 |
I think Snow Boy is a Genesis fan. Fair enough. I think I moved off track a little with the Beatles, Aginor with Roy (perhaps) and Snow Boy with Genesis.
(This thread was originally ELO-v-Queen)
But yes, to get to the last point, Roy Orbison was perhaps the greatest voice ever recorded (at least in non-classical music). Even Elvis said so...
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Icarium
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Posted: August 21 2010 at 07:24 |
and Jeff Lynne is actualy quite an underrated (yes i said underrated), singer he have a perfect vocal tone which brings tears in youre eyes, on he's best he kan give Roy Orbison a real challange vocaly, and he is also a qiute okey guitaris as well, not a shredder but i have seen he's fingger flye over the frettbord on some ochasions.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 21 2010 at 06:51 |
This is easy for me because I think ELO suck the big one.
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cocaine
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Posted: August 21 2010 at 06:50 |
Sorry for the mistake. Live and let die (McCartney) was 'inspired' by Starlight. So McCartney inspired by ELO which was in turn inspired by McCartney.
It's like a 'musical oneness Utopia'.
By the way, why did everyone stop talking about this almost 2 months ago?
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