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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6849 |
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Unfortunate indeed. Difficult to like an Astro Turffed album.
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Mirakaze ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Eclectic, JRF/Canterbury, Avant/Zeuhl Joined: December 17 2019 Location: (redacted) Status: Offline Points: 4266 |
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Most unfortunate. I wanted to write a review of his latest effort (which I also enjoyed very much) but I no longer feel compelled to do so, to say the least.
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BrufordFreak ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 25 2008 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 8546 |
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I feel kind of sad for him! Especially since it really is a very good album--probably one of the 20 best albums I've heard from 2022! |
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Drew Fisher
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38061 |
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Payback with the one star? ;)
I had to dismember and remove the ratings of several more fake accounts giving fives to GRECO BASTIÁN that registered after I deleted the earlier ratings. SEE this post from yesterday! (CLICK) It rather reeks of desperation. I'm convinced there's more abuse still. Will have to keep an eye on it. |
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"Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21478 |
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Holy Cow that last one!
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
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projeKct ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: November 03 2013 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 2983 |
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^ There are also these lonely 5-star ratings, though we can't prove anything :
The opposite can also be found ! |
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BrufordFreak ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 25 2008 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 8546 |
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^Nice job, guys. I'll correct my little hand slap.
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Drew Fisher
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38061 |
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^ I can't say with absolute certainty The locations were faked for those others and those accounts will be banned/ suspended/ reported as well as removing reviews. He rated his own work 5 stars and he also did the one star rating for COMPASSIONIZER Narrow Is the Road. I have dealt with all of the accounts mentioned and compiled a lot of other info (for future reference too in case others try to rate them) which I will go through at my own leisure later. Big job, thanks for reporting.
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"Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21478 |
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Is it the actual artist Greco?
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38061 |
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^ What it ends up doing is making the artist look bad and suspicious and turns people against the music. Will deal with, and update this post later. All one person from Mexico so far, as expected.
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"Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21478 |
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That's ridiculous
Also https://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=75774 Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - December 21 2022 at 10:29 |
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Ian
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BrufordFreak ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 25 2008 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 8546 |
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Newcomer (november 7) "ARMY BANNERS" (Ammy Banners) seems to have appeared with the sole intent of denigrating the albums at the top of the current 2022 charts in order to promote band GRECO BASTIÁN:
https://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=75775 Same with Jean Coleman ("PROGHEAD87", joined in September) https://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=75586 Ditto with Marcus Evans "(marcusevans", joined December 20) https://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=75943 And Biztie Harp ("Meurglys3", also joined December 20) https://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=75944 All joining merely to promote Bastián and take down those album ranked above. I find this behavior sickening and not to be tolerated. (P.S. My retaliatory demotion of the Greco Bastián LP--a very good album--is merely intended to be temporary--until the other issues are rectified.) Edited by BrufordFreak - December 21 2022 at 10:16 |
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Drew Fisher
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38061 |
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^ removed
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"Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
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Heart of the Matter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2020 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 3623 |
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COLLAGE - Over and Out shows one five-star rating (Release Date: December 2).
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21478 |
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Yeah, I don't see much wrong with it.
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Ian
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Mascodagama ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
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I didn't really see a problem with tempest77's review. He disliked the record and went into detail about the reasons why. He expressed himself forcefully but I think that's legitimate. Nobody complains about hyperbolic praise when someone is giving a five star review - and there are plenty of reviewers of this particular album who view it as the Second Coming in musical form. Quite rightly, they're free to express their enthusiasm. Music generates emotional reactions, and a vehement reaction either positive or negative is something reviewers should have leeway to express.
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Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to.
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Necrotica ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Colaborator Joined: July 28 2015 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 3407 |
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Yeah, I wouldn't really say your review came off as being offended. Maybe a bit ranty here and there, but haven't most of us written the occasional rant review here and there? I know I certainly have
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Take me down, to the underground
Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
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tempest_77 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 06 2018 Location: Maryland Status: Offline Points: 1676 |
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"Offended" is a rather mischaracterized term for my thoughts on it. I find the lyrics incredibly frustrating because they feed into a lot of common misrepresentations of problems with today's society (e.g. complaining about "starting at a screen" instead of addressing the root problem of the media industry perpetuating the idea of having a "perfect" self image). I wrote an extensive response to the Facebook comment user Second Life Syndrome left on my review that delves into this further; I am also working on incorporating parts of that response into an edited version of the review so as to clarify some parts of it.
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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6849 |
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I like the lyrics that offended the reviewer. That said..."To each their own."
"You're just a Mona Lisa staring at a screen / Knows nothing of the Nephilim and all that goes unseen / Another would be Socrates just melting in the crowd / Doesn't know who Lennon was, the legend of The Shroud".
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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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Well, in all fairness, he DID say "the fact that I got genuinely more angry about this album throughout the hour that I spent writing this review" Still, it is rather harsh.
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