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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2009 at 15:18
This isn't anything new in case you've been into UFOlogy for years like I have. He's been vocal about his belief in extraterrestrial life and the cover-ups for years.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2009 at 14:41
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

I didn't know astronauts had the capacity to lie like this.

The improbability of:

1) finding a planet suitable for any form of life
2) finding a planet suitable for intelligent life
3) finding a planet with intelligent life capable of faster than light travel
4) that intelligent life finding us and coming here
5) that intelligent life coming in the 20th century and not in the 4000 years or so since we developed a written language and could have documented these things
6) our hilariously inept governments keeping it secret for 40 years

...Leads us to conclude that anyone giving not a sh*tload of believable evidence is:

1) Lying
2) Delusional
3) Correct and without evidence. To bad for that guy.

And that's the end of that story.


Number 3 is impossible so certainly unlikely
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2009 at 14:15
Until the martian mothership lands in my back yard and a landing party of little green men descend armed with ray guns and say, "take me to your leader" then there are no aliens. Why do these martian spaceships always show up on some guy`s farm in Alabama at 2:00 in the morning when no one else is around? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2009 at 13:41
Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Well man has never stepped foot on the moon (allegedly and in my opinion).
  
You do realize that the flag only waved whenever the Astronauts positioned it, right? It was perfectly still the entire time they had their hands off of it. Not mention we send and receive daily signals to and from the moon's surface from reflectors that the astronauts placed there. Pretty elaborate cover-up, huh?
Logic plays no part in the belief in conspiracy theories, there's nothing you can say he hasn't heard before.
 
Probably not, but it's still fun to point out the obvious holes in the theory; whether or not he chooses to face the reality, I still walk away happy LOL


There's also holes in the supposed facts though. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2009 at 13:40
I was reading about that newly discovered extrasolar planet (Gliese 581 d) last night.  Interesting stuff indeed.

Of course, we (as in Astronauts) won't ever get to visit it in our lifetime.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2009 at 07:00
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:


1) finding a planet suitable for any form of life
2) finding a planet suitable for intelligent life

I think the first two are highly probable. 

Even then you have the problem of time. Planets don't form and evolve simultaneously. Our own planet is billions of years old. Assuming that other planets with intelligent live formed at different times and evolved differently, even if there were a lot of them in our galaxy it's still extremely unlikely that one of them would develop space travel at one small period of time and then find and visit our world also in that very small period of time when there's intelligent life (ok, the amount of intelligence is open for debateWink).

So, while I agree with your statement I think that it doesn't matter ... we're on our own.

Good point. Not all planetary systems are at the same age as ours. Not all planets in our solar system are at the same stage. For instance, given the topography of Mars, it appears to have at one time had a atmosphere. It's surface has many locations which appear like our rivers and tributaries. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2009 at 03:50
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2009 at 01:14
that's assuming any non-earth lifeforms would live on or come from planets

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2009 at 01:04
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:


1) finding a planet suitable for any form of life
2) finding a planet suitable for intelligent life

I think the first two are highly probable. 

Even then you have the problem of time. Planets don't form and evolve simultaneously. Our own planet is billions of years old. Assuming that other planets with intelligent live formed at different times and evolved differently, even if there were a lot of them in our galaxy it's still extremely unlikely that one of them would develop space travel at one small period of time and then find and visit our world also in that very small period of time when there's intelligent life (ok, the amount of intelligence is open for debateWink).

So, while I agree with your statement I think that it doesn't matter ... we're on our own.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2009 at 00:09
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Well man has never stepped foot on the moon (allegedly and in my opinion).
  
You do realize that the flag only waved whenever the Astronauts positioned it, right? It was perfectly still the entire time they had their hands off of it. Not mention we send and receive daily signals to and from the moon's surface from reflectors that the astronauts placed there. Pretty elaborate cover-up, huh?
Logic plays no part in the belief in conspiracy theories, there's nothing you can say he hasn't heard before.
 
Probably not, but it's still fun to point out the obvious holes in the theory; whether or not he chooses to face the reality, I still walk away happy LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2009 at 00:04
Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Well man has never stepped foot on the moon (allegedly and in my opinion).
  
You do realize that the flag only waved whenever the Astronauts positioned it, right? It was perfectly still the entire time they had their hands off of it. Not mention we send and receive daily signals to and from the moon's surface from reflectors that the astronauts placed there. Pretty elaborate cover-up, huh?
Logic plays no part in the belief in conspiracy theories, there's nothing you can say he hasn't heard before.


Edited by Henry Plainview - April 23 2009 at 00:07
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 23:59
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Well man has never stepped foot on the moon (allegedly and in my opinion).
 
You do realize that the flag only waved whenever the Astronauts positioned it, right? It was perfectly still the entire time they had their hands off of it. Not mention we send and receive daily signals to and from the moon's surface from reflectors that the astronauts placed there. Pretty elaborate cover-up, huh?
 
I swear, sometimes I worry about how much actual research makes up our knowledge of what we think we know, and how much of it is just stuff we've heard others say and taken as fact without doing our own homework.
 
Personally, I don't see the harm in at least giving these guys the benefit of the doubt, and then when the end of May comes and nothing has been released, that's when we can point and laugh. I know I'll certainly enjoy it. Tongue
 
But until then, let's just wait and see. I can't wait to read all the information that won't be released in a few months.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 23:54
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.


How absolutely awesome would it be if every video game character ever made was coincidentally a life form on another planet come to take us over?  Okay I've had too much beer.


Gordon Freeman would save us.
 
Gordan Freeman is getting a bit old himself, what with the whole Black Mesa incident knocking some years off of his life, and all.
 
Maybe he could call on the Vortigaunt to help . . .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 23:22

Hasn't anyone heard the news about the newly discovered planet about 20 light years away that appears to have water and about 1.9 percent the size of Earth? Anyways this shows that extraterrestrial life is completely possible (and in my opinion very likely). Though any other life in the universe is so far away that none of us nor our great(x100) grandchildren will ever hear about anything.

Also, keep in mind that the way life forms on other planets could be formed in an entirely different way than life on Earth, so maybe there's a way that life could form without similar conditions around 4.5 billion years ago (such as amount of water, electricity in the air, pH of water at the time, chemical makeup of atmosphere, temperature, light conditions). Anyways, just stating an opinion.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 21:37
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Well man has never stepped foot on the moon (allegedly and in my opinion).
You make me so very sad sometimes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 21:31
Well man has never stepped foot on the moon (allegedly and in my opinion).
Other lifeforms from other planets therefore have likely not been on our planet (they may not step, they may not have legs) LOL

That does not mean I do not believe there is life on other planets.  I believe there well could be.  Are they advanced?  Who knows.

I do not believe they have ever visited Earth though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 21:04
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 20:21
all progressive rock has been written by Aliens.

Little known fact:

 Graham Bond went into his backyard one day, and behold, There was a flying saucer smashed into his lawn! A part of the ship had fallen off, and lay steaming on the ground. Little did he know at that point, that the navigation system which he had found could create the most beautiful sounds to man. The aliens poured out of their ship soon after. The first words they spoke, were "Mewlotrawn" (which was the platen the came from).  Graham Bond decided later to name his newly found instrument after their planet.. but he misspelled it "mellotron". [/fail]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 20:15
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

I didn't know astronauts had the capacity to lie like this.

The improbability of:

1) finding a planet suitable for any form of life
2) finding a planet suitable for intelligent life

3) finding a planet with intelligent life capable of faster than light travel
4) that intelligent life finding us and coming here
5) that intelligent life coming in the 20th century and not in the 4000 years or so since we developed a written language and could have documented these things
6) our hilariously inept governments keeping it secret for 40 years

...Leads us to conclude that anyone giving not a sh*tload of believable evidence is:

1) Lying
2) Delusional
3) Correct and without evidence. To bad for that guy.

And that's the end of that story.
I think the first two are highly probable. 


As of now, 1 is probably in the ballpark, and 2 can't really be known. In 100 years, if we keep looking, yeah probably.

Given the age and size of the universe and the likelihood of us being here, wouldn't it be presumptuous of us to believe we are the only ones?


Yeah, but finding them is different from acknowledging they could exist.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 19:46
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I bet they killed JFK.

*Falls out of chair* LOL
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