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Poll Question: Which mixes do you prefer on the 10 albums mixed in mono AND stereo?
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

I usually don't pay attention to how many viewers a topic generates, but this appears to be one of the most viewed in PA's history Clap
 
I for one constantly return to read the responses. I will definitely get the stereo box but am also considering investing in the mono box.
 
I have listened to the entire stereo catalogue (or rather the 30 second samples) at the Beatles' website and most say that I was most thrilled by Magical Mystery Tour but to a much lesser extent by Rubber Soul and Revolver. I wonder if the mono box actually solves some of the panning issues.
There's no stereo panning on the mono versions. 
That's because they're mono.
That's what I meant: the mono box does solve the stereo panning issues, obviously.
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Originally posted by ZowieZiggy ZowieZiggy wrote:

This box set is ridiculously priced. Not for me.



Right. You can't buy it used, or anything. Wink

Look, the mono just sounds better when it comes to Beatles music. I have changed my vote on here after listening to Sgt. Pepper for the first time in mono. I couldn't believe how much more was there! So, I began this thread on the side of the stereo set vote, but after experiencing mono firsthand, I have changed my mind completely.

Trust me, the higher price tag is 110% worth it.
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Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

I usually don't pay attention to how many viewers a topic generates, but this appears to be one of the most viewed in PA's history Clap
 
I for one constantly return to read the responses. I will definitely get the stereo box but am also considering investing in the mono box.
 
I have listened to the entire stereo catalogue (or rather the 30 second samples) at the Beatles' website and most say that I was most thrilled by Magical Mystery Tour but to a much lesser extent by Rubber Soul and Revolver. I wonder if the mono box actually solves some of the panning issues.
There's no stereo panning on the mono versions. 
That's because they're mono.
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This box set is ridiculously priced. Not for me.
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Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

I usually don't pay attention to how many viewers a topic generates, but this appears to be one of the most viewed in PA's history Clap
 
I for one constantly return to read the responses. I will definitely get the stereo box but am also considering investing in the mono box.
 
I have listened to the entire stereo catalogue (or rather the 30 second samples) at the Beatles' website and most say that I was most thrilled by Magical Mystery Tour but to a much lesser extent by Rubber Soul and Revolver. I wonder if the mono box actually solves some of the panning issues.
There's no stereo panning on the mono versions. 
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I usually don't pay attention to how many viewers a topic generates, but this appears to be one of the most viewed in PA's history Clap
 
I for one constantly return to read the responses. I will definitely get the stereo box but am also considering investing in the mono box.
 
I have listened to the entire stereo catalogue (or rather the 30 second samples) at the Beatles' website and most say that I was most thrilled by Magical Mystery Tour but to a much lesser extent by Rubber Soul and Revolver. I wonder if the mono box actually solves some of the panning issues.
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Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Okay, getting to the The White Album now.  Sounding good.  Rocky Raccoon is the immediate progenitor of ELP's The Sheriff, right down to that saloon-style piano.
Edit to add:  has there ever been a better song written about heroin addiction than Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me and My Monkey?


Guess not, especially since I didn't know that's what it wad about. All I knew was that the title came from something the Maharishi was always lecturing about people and their secrets. I'm actually pretty embarrassed that I didn't realize John was talking about addiction. Embarrassed
I'm just guessing.  He was pretty into it at this point, and the lyrics, well they say it all.


No, I believe you have assumed correctly. It fits perfectly. I dunno what it is . . . my brain just never went in that direction when hearing the lyrics, I have no idea why. Confused
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Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Okay, getting to the The White Album now.  Sounding good.  Rocky Raccoon is the immediate progenitor of ELP's The Sheriff, right down to that saloon-style piano.
Edit to add:  has there ever been a better song written about heroin addiction than Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me and My Monkey?


Guess not, especially since I didn't know that's what it wad about. All I knew was that the title came from something the Maharishi was always lecturing about people and their secrets. I'm actually pretty embarrassed that I didn't realize John was talking about addiction. Embarrassed
I'm just guessing.  He was pretty into it at this point, and the lyrics, well they say it all.
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Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Okay, getting to the The White Album now.  Sounding good.  Rocky Raccoon is the immediate progenitor of ELP's The Sheriff, right down to that saloon-style piano.
Edit to add:  has there ever been a better song written about heroin addiction than Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me and My Monkey?


Guess not, especially since I didn't know that's what it wad about. All I knew was that the title came from something the Maharishi was always lecturing about people and their secrets. I'm actually pretty embarrassed that I didn't realize John was talking about addiction. Embarrassed
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Okay, getting to the The White Album now.  Sounding good.  Rocky Raccoon is the immediate progenitor of ELP's The Sheriff, right down to that saloon-style piano.
Edit to add:  has there ever been a better song written about heroin addiction than Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me and My Monkey?


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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I just got my 2009 stereo remastered boxset today,and let me tell you I was like a kid at Christmas.
 
Listening to Revolver right now,and so far sounds excellent.


I feel just the same!  Excellent!
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I bought Abbey Road remaster in stereo, to see what's all the fuzz behind the remasters...
 
I don't regret the buy, the remasters are very good, the sound is more "natural" and muscular.
 
I forget how sad are songs like Carry that Weight are.
 
i will buy the others cd's one by one.
 
BTW the White Album hadn't come to México.




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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I just got my 2009 stereo remastered boxset today,and let me tell you I was like a kid at Christmas.
 
Listening to Revolver right now,and so far sounds excellent.
I had chance to listen to Revolver, on headphones, last night.  I'd say for several songs it's the most disappointing in terms of the hard panning that I've heard so far when listening on headphones.  Agree the overall sound is excellent, but I don't care for the drums hard-panned to the left on Taxman.  The same fate befalls She Said She Said.  I can imagine these would sound much more powerful in mono.  My Revolver LP is stereo, so I have no point of comparison between the two options. 
 
 
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I just got my 2009 stereo remastered boxset today,and let me tell you I was like a kid at Christmas.
 
Listening to Revolver right now,and so far sounds excellent.


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Check out the new Beatles Widget featuring videos and the new digitally remastered audio tracks. You can also do things like post the widget in your facebook profile so that your friends can listen to The Beatles.

Just click on the link below:

http://www.clearspring.com/widgets/4aa4cbc0d1c4b34a
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For the record; they are releasing more mono sets. I read this just today.


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For the record; they are releasing more mono sets. I read this just today.


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Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by Chair Chair wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

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It seems like the preference most audiophiles have is that every album from 'Please Please Me' until 'Magical Mystery Tour' sound best in mono. 'Magical Mystery Tour' and 'The White Album' are claimed to sound better with the stereo mixes.

Does anyone agree with this?


I'll probably be buying the mono versions of a few of the albums just for comparison's sake. I'm a huge Beatles fan, but never have listened to mono Sgt. Pepper, for instance. Would be interesting to have a choice.


That would be nice to be able to only buy a few mono albums, but unfortunately, the mono CDs are only available as a whole.

It's all or nothing. Ouch
 
I don't know why they do this to us.  As an added insult, the mono box is LIMITED EDITION.  And they are already all gone.  In short, ya can't buy the mono versions, though I'm sure more than a few will show up on ebay for $500. 
 


Well then, f**k them. Angry


I have never understood this limited edition concept. Doesn't making a product available indefinitely ensure the companies more money? All you're doing when you limit the production of something is alienate a fanbase. Ouch
I suppose it theoretically creates demand (as if they need to create demand for The Beatles).  But what's the point of creating demand if you have no product to sell?  If they have any sense at all, they'll do another run of the mono box, which will then piss off those who assumed they were buying a limited edition mono box.  I can almost understand that having individual versions available in mono and stereo could possibly be confusing to the average consumer, who is no longer buying CD's anyway. 
 
By the way, the stereo versions (I'm now up to Rubber Soul, listening-wise) do sound great.  I have no mono versions (except the original LP's, not in that great of shape given that I played the sh*t out of them now for 40 years) to compare them to.  As for Rubber Soul, there is some of that hard-panning (vocals right, instruments left) to much of it, but the headphone experience is not as bad as one might imagine based on some of the reviews I've seen.  I'm listening to it on headphones as I type this.  They've managed to let some of each channel bleed into the other (or maybe that was the way it was originally).  Girl is probably the worst offender, panning-wise.  Still not unlistenable, however, as there is another guitar track that comes into the right (vocal) channel about midway through the song.  Run For Your Life has the same problem and the same redemption.    
 
 
    
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Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by Chair Chair wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by Chair Chair wrote:

It seems like the preference most audiophiles have is that every album from 'Please Please Me' until 'Magical Mystery Tour' sound best in mono. 'Magical Mystery Tour' and 'The White Album' are claimed to sound better with the stereo mixes.

Does anyone agree with this?


I'll probably be buying the mono versions of a few of the albums just for comparison's sake. I'm a huge Beatles fan, but never have listened to mono Sgt. Pepper, for instance. Would be interesting to have a choice.


That would be nice to be able to only buy a few mono albums, but unfortunately, the mono CDs are only available as a whole.

It's all or nothing. Ouch
 
I don't know why they do this to us.  As an added insult, the mono box is LIMITED EDITION.  And they are already all gone.  In short, ya can't buy the mono versions, though I'm sure more than a few will show up on ebay for $500. 
 


Well then, f**k them. Angry


I have never understood this limited edition concept. Doesn't making a product available indefinitely ensure the companies more money? All you're doing when you limit the production of something is alienate a fanbase. Ouch
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Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by Chair Chair wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by Chair Chair wrote:

It seems like the preference most audiophiles have is that every album from 'Please Please Me' until 'Magical Mystery Tour' sound best in mono. 'Magical Mystery Tour' and 'The White Album' are claimed to sound better with the stereo mixes.

Does anyone agree with this?


I'll probably be buying the mono versions of a few of the albums just for comparison's sake. I'm a huge Beatles fan, but never have listened to mono Sgt. Pepper, for instance. Would be interesting to have a choice.


That would be nice to be able to only buy a few mono albums, but unfortunately, the mono CDs are only available as a whole.

It's all or nothing. Ouch
 
I don't know why they do this to us.  As an added insult, the mono box is LIMITED EDITION.  And they are already all gone.  In short, ya can't buy the mono versions, though I'm sure more than a few will show up on ebay for $500. 
 


Well then, f**k them. Angry
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