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J-Man
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Posted: September 03 2009 at 18:27 |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: September 03 2009 at 18:19 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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J-Man
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Posted: September 03 2009 at 18:18 |
Guys, they could have gone anywhere. They went from a rock and roll band, to a psych band, and then a prog band in a matter of 7 years. If they went on for another 20 they might be making electronic for all we know!
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CPicard
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Posted: September 03 2009 at 16:01 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Well, they did start to make prog albums back in the late '60's. Not a uniform point of agreement on PA . I think Hendrix would have gone more in a jazz/rock-fusion direction.
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Mmmmm... Dubious. I think he would have tried a return to the blues, a bit of free-jazz, sometimes jazz-rock or even a fusion of hard-rock and funk. He wouldn't have sticked to one genre.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: September 03 2009 at 06:50 |
Best two example of what I envisage a Beatles song might have sounded like had they survived into the prog years would have to be:
(McCartney) re Counting Out Time from the Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. (Lennon) re Sex, Sleep, Eat. Drink. Dream by King Crimson
Both still unashamedly poppy but cut from more sophisticated cloth than that of the fab four's heyday.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: September 02 2009 at 19:38 |
Leftoverture wrote:
sorry if this has been done, but
we were discussing at work whether or not the Beatles would have started to make "prog" albums in the early 70's like many contemporaries did. I for one see it going either way. Let It Be was throwback, but the masterpieces like Sgt Peppers and MMT led the way for prog. The sum of what those for did on solo albums suggests that they wouldnt have, but with studio wizardry and the way those 4 made music, I think we missed out on maybe an even better prog masterpeice than DSOTM. I dunno, do you guys think they'd have gone there? |
Well, they did start to make prog albums back in the late '60's. Not a uniform point of agreement on PA . I think Hendrix would have gone more in a jazz/rock-fusion direction.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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SgtPepper67
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Posted: September 02 2009 at 19:22 |
mr.cub wrote:
I believe Lennon told the press if they wanted to hear what a new Beatles album would sound like he said look no further than a Wings recording. Not sure if that was a jest on Lennon's part considering his aversion to Paul at the time but I think it is interesting considering the topic |
I always thought it was Harrison who said that, and I always had the feeling he didn't mean it in a good way.
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Odisseos
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Posted: September 02 2009 at 18:35 |
Or, who knows, like Tears for Fears' Elemental
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Odisseos
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Posted: September 02 2009 at 18:30 |
If The Beatles kept going Prog they could sound like King Crimson's Thrak (Dinosaur, Walking on Air, People, Sex Sleep Eat Drink Dream) or may be like Nektar's Remember the Future
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 07 2009 at 18:40 |
^ well we know Lennon very much liked Band on the Run
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mr.cub
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Posted: April 07 2009 at 18:14 |
I believe Lennon told the press if they wanted to hear what a new Beatles album would sound like he said look no further than a Wings recording. Not sure if that was a jest on Lennon's part considering his aversion to Paul at the time but I think it is interesting considering the topic
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mrcozdude
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Posted: April 07 2009 at 13:51 |
I think the Beatles got the perfect combination of styles and song writing.I actually think if they were to become more progressive they would of had less of an impact I can only imagine them sounding more along the lines of the moody blues/early Floyd and replace screaming teenage girls with middle aged bearded men possibly screaming equally as loud.
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Finnforest
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Posted: March 28 2009 at 08:53 |
I think they would have sounded a lot like Badfinger.
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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micky
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Posted: March 28 2009 at 08:38 |
a view that I have read with some regularly...
If the Beatles had kept going ..Prog?
look to ELO... a common theme I've seen a number of write-up's.. essays on the group is they were... The Beatles taken into the 70's. Can't argue with that....
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Sacred 22
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Posted: March 27 2009 at 21:21 |
It would all depend on who was doing their writing for them at the time.
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jammun
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Posted: March 27 2009 at 20:15 |
If you want to know what The Beatles would have sounded like if they kept going, give a listen to some XTC...Skylarking, Oranges and Lemons, maybe Nonesuch.
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SgtPepper67
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Posted: March 27 2009 at 18:57 |
If they kept going I think they wouldn't have been more prog than Abbey Road, wich IMO is a pretty progressive album, although not in the way of Yes and Genesis. My guess is their albums would have probably sound not very different from some Wings albums like Band on the run, Red rose speedway, Ram or Venus & Mars, mixed with some Imagine or Mind games kind of stuff.
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Peter
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Posted: March 27 2009 at 13:53 |
^ Sorry about that -- 'twas only in jest!
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mrcozdude
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Posted: March 27 2009 at 13:25 |
Peter wrote:
mrcozdude wrote:
Weather the beatles went prog or not.The mothers still would of changed the world. |
I wonder whether you feel you have weathered the Beatles.
 And of course the mothers of us all would have changed the world (and many diapers in the process) no matter what.   |
I feel such a fool
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J-Man
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Posted: March 27 2009 at 13:24 |
Well, Abbey Road certainly was completely prog, but their solo music wasn't prog. Then again, none of the Genesis solo members really make prog, so that doesn't matter.
I would say art rock. More than regular rock, but not prog. Maybe crossover or prog related.
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