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darkshade 
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 Posted: May 10 2009 at 17:54 |
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Miles' music is overall dark and black, i would not call it depressing. Especially when i put his music on at night, there is an overall mysticism to Davis' work.
Zappa is looney at worst, Outstanding and bizarre at best! FZ brings in humor as well.
I forgot i started this thread. I dont remember who i voted for, but i could see it being very tough for most people here to vote, especially those heavily into jazz and avant-garde, as both artists were
i think a Miles vs. Coltrane vs. Mingus vs. Monk would be an exciting debate, as they were all legends in the jazz world, as well as peers and contemporaries, so i wouldnt have Dizzy and Parker in the poll.
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Prospero
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Posted: May 10 2009 at 10:10 |
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The impact Miles Davis' music had on Zappa is significant. Zappa listened to Bitches Brew extensively while he was in hospital after he had hurt himself on stage. "The Grand Wazoo" and "Waka/Jawaka" too me sound like Bitches Brew infused with happiness (Miles' music sometimes feels emotionless, depressing - though that's just me, and don't get me wrong, I enjoy all of his legacy.). In conclusion: No Miles Davis, probably a different Zappa. No Zappa, probably the same Miles Davis. I voted Miles.
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: May 10 2009 at 09:30 |
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I can vote two giants favourites of mine
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mrcozdude
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Posted: May 10 2009 at 05:13 |
 Atavachron wrote:
Logan wrote:
Now Davis vs. Coltrane....
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mmm, yes, that would be a barn-burner ..quiet coups or bloody revolutions, you decide!
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I think mingus vs coltrane would be more interesting
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crimson87
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Posted: May 08 2009 at 21:42 |
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Like both of them quite a LOT, but I chose Miles. Both have some weak albums, but Miles wins because I prefer his weaker albums to Zappa's weaker albums. |
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 08 2009 at 17:06 |
Logan wrote:
I really like and respect Zappa, but I have to go with Davis as better and more innovative, and I prefer Davis. Now Davis vs. Coltrane....
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mmm, yes, that would be a barn-burner ..quiet coups or bloody revolutions, you decide!
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inrainbows
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Posted: May 08 2009 at 16:57 |
Stooge wrote:
Like both of them quite a bit, but I chose Miles. Both have some weak albums, but Miles wins because I prefer his weaker albums to Zappa's weaker albums.
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^^^ This
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SaltyJon
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Posted: May 08 2009 at 16:40 |
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Based on the output of each that I've heard, Miles gets my vote. As has been said, both were musical geniuses, both were innovative and progressive in what they did, but much of the time Miles gets my attention much easier and can usually hold it longer than most artists.
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Stooge
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Posted: May 08 2009 at 16:11 |
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Like both of them quite a bit, but I chose Miles. Both have some weak albums, but Miles wins because I prefer his weaker albums to Zappa's weaker albums.
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paganinio
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Posted: May 08 2009 at 12:42 |
blasphemy Miles Davis is the greatest musician of the last century. Bob Dylan comes in sixth! Frank Zappa unranked!
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mrcozdude
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Posted: May 07 2009 at 18:08 |
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Edited by mrcozdude - May 07 2009 at 18:09
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: May 07 2009 at 17:50 |
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Okay, I love dead people worship as much as the next guy, but Miles and Frank are only two great musicians. Neither of them is anything more impressive than damn good. I love them both but to declare one as being so much better than the other as to not be mentionable in the same sentence is silly. Sure, Miles Davis vs. Pink, I'll give you. Frank Zappa vs. Men Without Hats, yep. Zappa vs. Davis, though? There is ample and fair reason for it to be a real debate. They both made some brilliant moves, both really challenged a lot of things, and both had some absolutely incredible screwups musically speaking.
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King Crimson776
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Posted: May 07 2009 at 16:56 |
crimhead wrote:
King Crimson776 wrote:
[QUOTE=peskypesky]
This is a freaking joke, right? As great as Zappa was, to even mention him in the same breath as the inimitable Miles Davis is asinine. What's next, Pink Floyd or Mozart?
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That's the point. :P
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: May 06 2009 at 22:38 |
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Miles was changing, improving and stirring sh*t up from the day he started playing to the day he died.
A master song writer, interpreter, player, social critic. And I suppose quite crazy at times. He had perfect tempo, and the ability to know exactly who he needed to get he sound he was looking for for every creation.
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Replace the word "Miles" with "Zappa" and your statement is equally true. Honestly, I prefer Zappa. Miles had a few fallow periods with zero productivity, plus his stagnant 80s material doesn't exactly help his case. Zappa just kept chuggin' along and tinkering/screwing with just about everything that crossed his path. That being said, early 70s MD and FZ are absolute godliness.
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Dominic
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Posted: May 06 2009 at 22:23 |
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Zappa, my musical idol |
 Yeah; it's not surprising that Zappa is winning, these are the progressive rock archives after all.
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: March 17 2009 at 15:29 |
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Well, considering they're my two favorite jazz musicians to date, it does get tough. I am liking Miles more and more every day, though, so my current Frank on top might be reversed some time.
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darkshade
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Posted: March 17 2009 at 13:02 |
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i find this interesting that FZ is winning (or won) but not by much. almost a tie right here!
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crimhead
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Posted: January 18 2009 at 01:00 |
King Crimson776 wrote:
[QUOTE=peskypesky]
This is a freaking joke, right? As great as Zappa was, to even mention him in the same breath as the inimitable Miles Davis is asinine. What's next, Pink Floyd or Mozart?
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[/QUOTE Mozart of course.
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Evolutionary Sleeper
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 15:40 |
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Gonna go with Zappa on this one.
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crimhead
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 13:03 |
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coin flip on this one.
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