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chopper 
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 Posted: July 15 2008 at 08:00 |
 Your Lame Sister wrote:
The problem with the Zepps is that they were never able to release a 'perfect' album. every album they released had at least a couple of tracks that weren't good enough. The debut was the closest they ever got to making a perfect album, and even that album had a stinker or two. that said, Zeppelin still produced a gigantic amount of fantastic songs, and when they were good, they were absolutely incredible. |
Well, you'd have a pretty good argument for Led Zep IV being close to perfection, perhaps only Four Sticks lowers the mark at all. Led Zep II has Livin' Lovin' Maid which is okay at best, III has the much-criticised Roy Harper song (which I actually like) and Houses Of The Holy has The Crunge, which is a throwaway joke at best. Few double albums can match the standard of Physical Graffiti which doesn't have a really duff track until the last one. I personally think they didn't release a genuine stinker until Hots On For Nowhere on Prescence, and even The Beatles can't match that standard.
Edited by chopper - July 15 2008 at 08:02
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Your Lame Sister
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Posted: July 15 2008 at 06:48 |
The problem with the Zepps is that they were never able to release a 'perfect' album. every album they released had at least a couple of tracks that weren't good enough. The debut was the closest they ever got to making a perfect album, and even that album had a stinker or two. that said, Zeppelin still produced a gigantic amount of fantastic songs, and when they were good, they were absolutely incredible.
Rainbow is pretty much the opposite: they were consistent throughout the Dio period, and didn't release as much filler as Zep. unfortunately, they were never able to reach the highs that the Leds reached, and they didn't release nearly as much good songs as zep. besides, rainbow were inferior to zep in every area: Page was the better riff-man (by a bit), and his solos beat Blackmore's, in my oppinion. I also prefer plant to dio, and the Rainbow rythm section was no match to Jones and Bonham.
So Rainbow lose.
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"Playing acoustic guitar is like having sex with your clothes on - I mean, you know how to do it, but it's more difficult." - Dave Mustaine
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 05 2008 at 18:49 |
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Rainbow really was a band I got in... Maybe cause Rising and LLRR, even though both has some songs that I really like, not Stargazer, I really can't think it's a masterpiece neither a 4 star. Having their debut perhaps not being being quite unique but still the album overall has no falls. And from Bonnet and Turner era I like many songs to but still doesn't really amazes me or puts me on feet.
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rudderhead
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Posted: March 05 2008 at 18:40 |
I dont mind that. At least you dont think they are crap
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LinusW
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Posted: March 05 2008 at 17:46 |
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Sure there are some good songs on the later Rainbow albums. But I would never put them in the same league as the early stuff. Being quite a big fan of Rainbow since long before heading into progressive territory, I don't dislike those albums just because I'm "supposed" to. I've given them many fair listens. Just a matter of taste.
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rudderhead
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Posted: March 05 2008 at 16:55 |
Rainbow and not just the Dio ones. Graham Bonnet and Joe Lyn Turner are good to. I dont agree that they are more radio-friendly. I think the GB and JLT albums sound just us loud as the Dio ones.
Straight between the eyes is a real kick ass record just listen to Death Alley Driver or Power. Much better than Led Zeppelin. I think people just dislike the later Rainbow albums because they think they are supposed to, not because they are. So dont be fooled by that
Budgie is much better than led zeppelin to
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The Quiet One
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Posted: February 08 2008 at 12:13 |
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ok I love DP but not Rainbow crappy. I just think they have 3 good albums and that's it. Led Zep has 3 completely masterpices II IV and Houses of the Holy . And then it has 4 very good albums I III and Physcial Graffiti and Prescense. Wow Led beats Rainbow for a 1000 light years dude...
Rainbow doesn't have innovating stuff.
Led Zep yes!
Oh by the way Plant beats Dio for a mile and Page beats Ritchie for another mile. John Paul Jones beats the bass guitarist from Rainbow that I don't who is lol. And Bonham beats Powell but not for a mile very close.
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Norbert
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Posted: February 07 2008 at 09:30 |
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Rainbow has 3 fantastic labums, but they have much more weak albums than Led Zeppelin.
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LinusW
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Posted: February 06 2008 at 22:10 |
NaturalScience wrote:
The Whistler wrote:
Anyways, here's the deal. Based on what I've heard, Rainbow released at least two, count 'em, two, masterpieces in their meager existance...Led Zeppeling, on the other hand, has not released one. |
Apparently when I took out the garbage last night, I forgot to take this statement.
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Harsh.  And not true. The good Rainbow albums are REALLY good (unfortunately decided to cash in on the radio too soon  ), but Zep has a bigger discography interspersed with many masterful songs, but also many way to bluesy (for my taste) ones. Altogether, it's an impossible choice!
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Zargus
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Posted: January 31 2008 at 02:38 |
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Well im pretty sick of ol zep right now all this over exposure lately is geting anoying im starting to to understand what it must have been like in the 70s.. i vote for the underated DIO's Rainbow.
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martinprog77
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Posted: January 31 2008 at 02:28 |
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Nothing can last
there are no second chances.
Never give a day away.
Always live for today.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: January 30 2008 at 10:22 |
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2nd vote for Rainbow! (Dio era)
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Nash
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Posted: January 30 2008 at 10:16 |
Led Zeppelin 
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Abstrakt
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Posted: January 27 2008 at 10:11 |
Oh, that's a diddly of a pickle!
While i really like Blackmore's works, exspecially live, It doesn't beat the Magic of the four members of Led Zeppelin!
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Raff
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Posted: January 26 2008 at 10:18 |
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I am a major Dio-era Rainbow fan, but I don't think the two bands can even be compared. As uneven as their output may be, Led Zeppelin have been hugely influential, and when they were good, they were fantastic. Rainbow, on the other hand, put out three excellent studio albums, but then Blackmore decided it was time for the band to go radio-friendly - and that was the end for them.
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Guzzman
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Posted: January 26 2008 at 08:17 |
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If you're really going to get Zeppelin live material, go for How The West Was Won. In my opinion that one is far better (and has much more music on it) than The Song Remains The Same, although I put that one on now and then as well and mightily enjoy it.
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"We've got to get in to get out"
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The Whistler
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Posted: January 25 2008 at 03:18 |
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Can do.
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 25 2008 at 03:16 |
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touche
..then you should like Song, make it your next Zep purchase
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The Whistler
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Posted: January 25 2008 at 03:13 |
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I don't think you've been paying attention about me 'n live shows. I JUST BOUGHT THE DOORS: LIVE IN BOSTON. Check the Prindle review. That's why I got it.
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 25 2008 at 03:11 |
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well if you expect the albums, Zep live can be a bit of a shock ..SRtS is one of the greats though, just listen with a rock'n roll heart and don't expect perfection.. not what they were about
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