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Originally posted by Mystique Mystique wrote:

I understood the intention of this original poster; however, his request that the albums we mentioned have been rated with only two stars in PA is without a doubt in direct contradiction with the request expressed in the title (a title of a thread is like a preamble to the introductory post, you'll agree) of the topic for "little underrated" albums.

and there you have it, encapsulated in this sentence, the reason why I tend to initiate so few threads on this forum; by the time we hit page 2, someone will have dissected and analysed my intentions, finding their consistency wanting... takes all the fun out of the experience quite frankly... Ouch
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Originally posted by Mystique Mystique wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

To keep this thread a little more focussed, I'd ask forum members to only include albums which score less than 3 stars.
It amuses me that many don't follow what is intended.
Is it perhaps because the original poster in the title of this topic asks for albums that are a little underrated, hence his desire for so-low-star-rated albums runs counter to that?
For my part, I consciously ignored his unconventional requirement for two-star-rated albums and posted titles of albums that, despite being masterpieces, i.e., albums without a weak moment, didn't reach four stars, not to mention that they are referenced very infrequently or never.

Well, I guess there are two principle ways that an album can be underrated; the one I focussed on, which is that the PA album rating seems very low, while the other is that an album may have a respectable rating, but has only been rated by 40 members, where you think an album of such consequence should have 400 ratings!  Both of these are for me equally valid, which is why verslibre's comments are salient:

^Il Baricentro made two great albums, Sconcerto (1976) and Trusciant (1978) — the epitome of underrated.

In stating the above, I guess I didn't want the thread to descend into the typical 'I think ELP are unfairly maligned.. they were geniuses' conversations we go down all too often? I wish my prog knowledge was deeper and encompassed more genres, so that I was able to answer everyone in this thread... regrettably it isn't and never will be (I've spent a large portion of my past listening time on Classical) but I thought this might become a positive thread, where members could promote recordings they feel haven't had a fair press? 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

5. Tangerine Dream - Le Parc (2.87 rating but easily one of my favourites by them, I believe it's a masterpiece)


As always Rich, it's an interesting list and thanks for your insights, some of which I agree with, others not.. I'm just picking out this one because quite by sheer chance, I'm playing it at the moment.. Overall, I'd raise it to about 3.3, but when considering the 'Blue Years', I have always preferred both Green Dessert & Underwater Sunlight, placing LP on a level with Tyger in quality? 

LP in particular really sounds quite dated now, to that distinct mid 80's vibe...
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

^I think both this thread and the opposite one have lost the plot a bit. There have already been many threads about albums thought of as VERY underrated/overrated on this site, but I appreciate that we're tasked with focusing on works we believe to only be a LITTLE underrated/overrated. We should try to stick to that.
I understood the intention of this original poster; however, his request that the albums we mentioned have been rated with only two stars in PA is without a doubt in direct contradiction with the request expressed in the title (a title of a thread is like a preamble to the introductory post, you'll agree) of the topic for "little underrated" albums.
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^I think both this thread and the opposite one have lost the plot a bit. There have already been many threads about albums thought of as VERY underrated/overrated on this site, but I appreciate that we're tasked with focusing on works we believe to only be a LITTLE underrated/overrated. We should try to stick to that.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

To keep this thread a little more focussed, I'd ask forum members to only include albums which score less than 3 stars.
It amuses me that many don't follow what is intended.
Is it perhaps because the original poster in the title of this topic asks for albums that are a little underrated, hence his desire for so-low-star-rated albums runs counter to that?
For my part, I consciously ignored his unconventional requirement for two-star-rated albums and posted titles of albums that, despite being masterpieces, i.e., albums without a weak moment, didn't reach four stars, not to mention that they are referenced very infrequently or never.
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

To keep this thread a little more focussed, I'd ask forum members to only include albums which score less than 3 stars.
It amuses me that many don't follow what is intended.
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Yes

Time and a Word, Relayer, Tales, GFTO, Tormato, Big Generator (more than a little though) and Talk (maybe also their very first album just called Yes)


Genesis 

And then there were three, Trespass, A Trick of the Tail, Wind and Wuthering


ELP

The debut


Rush

Caress of Steel, Hold Your Fire, Counterparts, Signals (maybe) 


Pink Floyd

Atom Heart Mother, The Final Cut, A Momentary Lapse of Reason


Porcupine Tree

Lightbulb Sun, Stupid Dream, Signify


Gentle Giant

Self titled debut, The Missing Piece


King Crimson

In the Wake of Poseidon, Larks Tongues in Aspic, Starless and Bible Black, Three of a Perfect Pair


Camel

The Snow Goose, Dust and Dreams


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Illusion - Out of the Mist
Nino Ferrer - Blanat
Yoshiko Sai - Mikkou
Alquin - Marks


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1. Rick Wakeman - Six Wives Of Henry VIII (has a good rating on PA but I put it right up there with the very best prog albums and should be in the Top 20 in my estimation.
2. ELP - Brain Salad Surgery (similar comments to above although I cannot come back on their decision to include Benny The Bouncer on the album instead of When The Apple Blossom Blooms. Dumb decision. However it's only 2 minutes of nonsense that's easy to skip. As I said on the other thread, ELP albums are mostly rated about right).
3. Anathema - Weather Systems (again very similar comment. It doesn't have a bad rating by any means but I would still make it higher and put it easily in the top 50 best prog albums)
4. Genesis - And Then There Were Three ( I have news for you, Genesis as a 3 peice band did work. Great songs even if some of it is 'pop'. Deep In The Motherlode, Down and Out and Burning Rope are great prog songs but there are no bad songs imo)
5. Tangerine Dream - Le Parc (2.87 rating but easily one of my favourites by them, I believe it's a masterpiece)
6. Vangelis - Beauborg (2.64 rating is mad, is this really a 'progressive' music site??!)
7. Dream Theater - The Astonishing (yep I like it!)
8. Martin Orford - The Old Road (not a bad rating at 3.83 but I would put it over 4 easily)
9. Glass Hammer - The Inconsolable Secret (a lot of their music is underrated but this especially should be better than the 3.45)
10. Tin Spirits - Scorch (more overlooked than underrated as such. Dave Gregory side project before he became a full member of BBT. I love it personally.)
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According to my tastes / evaluations; very underrated (these are true masterpieces):

1) VdGG: The Least
2) Family: Doll's House 
3) Tim Buckley: Starsailor
4) Roxy Music: I
4) Gentle Giant: I
5) Peter Hammill: Chameleon
6) R. Wyatt: Rock Bottom
7) Henry Cow: In Praise of Learning
8) Comus: First Utterance
9) Perigeo: Azimut
10)  Neu! Neu!
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Yes, just like these three underrated albums for instance. Smile

4 stars 2014: Yes - Heaven & Earth - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0Tfxf8B-2QCkUQmwItn52pk5QZglz2Hj (chronically underrated at 2.30 on PA) Cry
4 stars 2021: Yes - The Quest - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lD6x-iaY3we25X25RBbX2g_ee9AmZCUlA (rated only 2.90 on PA) Ouch
5 stars 2023: Yes - Mirror to the Sky - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mdLFJt9iPnV0i5cqbPQzOA3-wD3VEgJxA (inexplicably rated only 3.42 on PA) Shocked

I had been patiently waiting for you to post some unfairly maligned Yes albums and credit where it's due, you didn't disappoint... Thumbs Up
Other than Open Your Eyes, the three YES albums with Jon Davison as lead singer seem to be the most maligned of all, so this seemed like a good place to give them some love. Smile 
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^Il Baricentro made two great albums, Sconcerto (1976) and Trusciant (1978) — the epitome of underrated.

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Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Eloy-Inside
The Pink Mice-In Action and In Synthesizer Sound
Strange Days-9 Parts To The Wind
Wallenstein-No More Love
Triumvirat-Mediterranean Tales
Il Baricentro-Sconcerto
Solution-Divergence

there's a few....

Looks like an interesting list Doug; worthy of exploration... Smile
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


And this subject has certainly been covered before as well, but okay, some I'll surely mention are all the ELP albums beginning with the debut and up to and including BSS.

Yes, the subject probably has been covered before David, as has just about every other subject...

So, given my criteria, which of the albums cited could you make out a case for as being underrated?
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Yes, just like these three underrated albums for instance. Smile

4 stars 2014: Yes - Heaven & Earth - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0Tfxf8B-2QCkUQmwItn52pk5QZglz2Hj (chronically underrated at 2.30 on PA) Cry
4 stars 2021: Yes - The Quest - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lD6x-iaY3we25X25RBbX2g_ee9AmZCUlA (rated only 2.90 on PA) Ouch
5 stars 2023: Yes - Mirror to the Sky - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mdLFJt9iPnV0i5cqbPQzOA3-wD3VEgJxA (inexplicably rated only 3.42 on PA) Shocked

I had been patiently waiting for you to post some unfairly maligned Yes albums and credit where it's due, you didn't disappoint... Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by TerLJack TerLJack wrote:

Ambrosia's first and second recordings.  I found them in the cut-out bins (remember those?) so many years ago, and loved them immensely.

Although they both score over 3, with the debut 3.90, they aren't really underrated (the debut in particular is often cited in Fb groups), but they are for me a timely reminder, because I do need to give them a serious listen at some stage in the near future, so thanks... Clap
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Ambrosia's first and second recordings.  I found them in the cut-out bins (remember those?) so many years ago, and loved them immensely.(function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'8a642722c9330914',t:'MTcyMTQ5MTEwOC4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: none; visibility: ;">






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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


3 stars 1994: Emerson, Lake & Palmer - In the Hot Seat - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsRElYTXER7YSEMhEIOmP3D (rated 1.78 on PA, which sounds about right) Tongue

Upon reflection, I think this thread was made for you, Paul... there seem to be all manner of unloved, strange 'runts of the litter' that you take to your heart and champion.. LOL
Yes, just like these three underrated albums for instance. Smile

4 stars 2014: Yes - Heaven & Earth - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0Tfxf8B-2QCkUQmwItn52pk5QZglz2Hj (chronically underrated at 2.30 on PA) Cry
4 stars 2021: Yes - The Quest - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lD6x-iaY3we25X25RBbX2g_ee9AmZCUlA (rated only 2.90 on PA) Ouch
5 stars 2023: Yes - Mirror to the Sky - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mdLFJt9iPnV0i5cqbPQzOA3-wD3VEgJxA (inexplicably rated only 3.42 on PA) Shocked
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And this subject has certainly been covered before as well, but okay, some I'll surely mention are all the ELP albums beginning with the debut and up to and including BSS.
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