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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

I stumbled upon this open access book published by Taylor & Francis back in 2022 that might be of interest to some readers of this forum: 

Noise as a Constructive Element in Music: Theoretical and Music-Analytical Perspectives
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Hi,

I would imagine that this would be far out, and much more interesting, if it took on the history of the "noise" and how it was developed. For example, if you take "Forbidden Planet" and its very electronic sounds, they ended up becoming a part of a lot of science fiction materials, because the noises were so far out, different and helped create images in your head ... one thing that 99% of the audiences today appear to be lacking, thus the need for "lyrics" to tell them what is going on and what this or that is about! (Wink).

The "exploration" is far more interesting than just about anything ... but that is my own experience. I have always loved the "experiments" in many arts, and the sound/music aspect is as neat and far out, as theater was in the 50's and 60's, destroying the "fourth wall" and then telling all walls to take a hike! This is one thing that popular music, has not done, compared to many of the other arts.

I'm looking around for this book ... hopefully I can get it, but it scares me to see things like this ... sometimes, the true center of its birth is missing ... and this is like saying that the instruments are the thing, and screw the folks that played them ... if the player had no "vision" or an adventurous desire to try something new and different, it would not happen ... and many of those folks are not given the credit they deserve. 

Ex: The knife by Keith Emerson ... was not a take on some of the ideas we had ... it was a way to get those two keys to continue playing ... a sustain that (likely) none of those instruments had at the time (a longer sustain, not the momentary sustain that pianos and most keyboards have). But we think of it as some extreme this or that and not give KE credit for finding a way to get that extended sound he was hoping to get and use.

The application of the "noise" is the difference, since "noise" on its own ... is not going to get any attention. Sometimes put us to sleep! But I think that Faust showed us how much fun it could be ... 
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Thanks, that looks quite interesting indeed, at least some of the articles in it. Downloaded!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote progaardvark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2024 at 11:08
I stumbled upon this open access book published by Taylor & Francis back in 2022 that might be of interest to some readers of this forum: 

Noise as a Constructive Element in Music: Theoretical and Music-Analytical Perspectives

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Music and noise seem to be mutually exclusive. Music is generally considered as an ordered arrangement of sounds pleasing to the ear and noise as its opposite: chaotic, ugly, aggressive, sometimes even deafening. When presented in a musical context, noise can thus act as a tool to express resistance to predominant cultural values, to society or to socioeconomic structures (including those of the music industry). The oppositional stance confirms current notions of noise as something which is destructive, a belief not only cherished by hard-core rock bands but also shared by engineers and companies developing devices to suppress or reduce noise in our daily environment. In contrast to the common opinions on noise just described, this volume seeks to explore the constructive potential of noise in contemporary musical practices. Rather than viewing noise as a ‘defect’, this volume aims at studying its aesthetic and cultural potential. Within the noise music study field, most recent publications focus on subgenres such as psychedelic post-rock, industrial, hard-core punk, trash or rave, as they developed from rock and popular music. This book includes work on avant-garde music developed in the domain of classical music as well. In addition to already well-established (social) historical and aesthetical perspectives on noise and noise music, this volume offers contributions by music analysts.

Available for free download here: https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/90105
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