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Awesoreno
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Actually, a decent amount of Zappa's output counts. He would often have live cuts in his studio albums, or have albums mostly composed of cut up live bits with studio overdubs.
Three different examples: -Roxy/Elsewhere is billed as a live album, but every single track contains studio overdubs, and many of the tracks are actually amalgams of a few different live takes. -Sheik Yerbouti is considered a studio album, but most of the tracks get their basis from a 1978 live performance at The Hammersmith Odeon in London (as chronicled in the ZFT posthumous release Hammersmith) with a lot of studio tracks laid on top. Unlike the former album, I believe the studio contributions rival the live contributions. Most of the vocals were done in studio (except for Yo' Mama, I believe), that's for sure. -Tinseltown Rebellion is mostly a live album, but does contain some overdubbing, and the opening track, Fine Girl, is a studio track. Not to mention the many studio albums that feature Zappa's use of "xenochrony," a term he coined to describe the process of taking a live guitar solo track and placing it in a different context over a studio rhythm backing track.
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Of the choices I’ll go with Soft Machine Six. The live and studio halves are equally impressive.
Re: Moody Blues. I’ve always loved the band but find that live album a bit hard to listen to. I just don’t think they sounded very good live in the early days, compared to the awesomeness of the studio recordings. However, I totally love the “+5” portion. All 5 songs are worthy additions to their legacy, especially “What am I Doing Here?” which would potentially be in my top 10 MB songs. |
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I don't believe SaBB is typically considered a live album (partial or otherwise). I had no idea that some of it was recorded live until I read about it online a few years ago. They took the crowd noise out so it wouldn't sound like a live album. You can refer to it as a partially live album if you want but really it isn't (not imo). I think a better case for a partial live abum would be Frank Zappa's Sheik Yerbouti which also features songs that had crowd noise edited out (but not all).
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Frank Zappa's Weasels Ripped My Flesh and Burnt Weeny Sandwich could also meet the criteria for this poll. Later albums like Sheikh Yerbouti featured basic tracks recorded live with varying amounts of overdubs.
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I went for Six/6. (it needed it most)
On their own adlission, some of the Yes member claim they were hardly at their top for that concert (under-rehearsed). TBH, if I still spin the KTA once in a while, it's mainly for the studio tracks ... and then, certainly more so, for the KTA2 studio tracks. I might not even own those two KTA double albums if they'd published the Keystudio tracks as an album proper back then. Cream's Wheel Of Fire & Goodbye might also be a bit out of time frame (68 & 69 rspectively)
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I do love Keys to Ascension. For me my favourite Yes live along with Symphonic Live (easily over Yessongs), and I belive they might just as well be the best starting point for someone wanting to know what the band is about.... I only wish the live and the studio sides had been released separatley... or at the very least that there wasn't any side mixing songs from them both. |
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I guess Ummagumma. Though in the early years box-set there are a few great concerts to give it a run for its money. And then there is Live at Pompeii too.
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None of the above...my vote belongs to the King Crimson album Starless and Bible Black (1974, and thus well within the 'classic timeframe')
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Well, so was three sides live though not as much. I get it though. You didn't want to go too far away from the golden era. Anyway, I'm only familiar with the Genesis, Moody Blues and PF so I won't vote.
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Syzygy
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Concerts, from this list. Can - The Lost Tapes is probably too recent a release for this poll, but is another excellent mix of live and studio recordings.
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Ummagumma
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Ummagumma > Three Sides Live > Henry Cow
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My feeble answer is that they were released long after the 'classic timeframe', however defined, that I was using as a sub-conscious reference point. The greater guilty omission is Santana's 'Moonflower'!
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interesting so what's your favorite PF album?
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Ummagumma, my second favourite PF album.
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Ummagumma, Caught Live plus Five, Three Sides Live.
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Ummagumma!
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I had a partial live album this morning, if you know what I mean. |
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The only one on there I can vote for is Soft machine, big fan of that one, the rest not so much.
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To mention another since I already voted for Henry's Cow (which is more mooful than woeful methinks)...
The Pentangle's Sweet Child is a half live and half studio double-album. Edited by Logan - March 01 2023 at 15:50 |
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