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^ and why do we need two superbasic posts about grunge that pretty much says the same thing? So grunge is a form of rock that typically uses electric guitar, bass guitar, drums and has vocals.

...also "All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much, much thicker in the middle, and then thin again at the far end."
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More about Grunge:

"Grunge

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Grunge (sometimes referred to as the Seattle sound) is an alternative rock genre and subculture that emerged during the mid-1980s in the American Pacific Northwest state of Washington, particularly in Seattle and nearby towns. Grunge fuses elements of punk rock and heavy metal, but without punk's structure and speed.[2] The genre featured the distorted electric guitar sound used in both genres, although some bands performed with more emphasis on one or the other. Like these genres, grunge typically uses electric guitar, bass guitar, drums and vocals. Grunge also incorporates influences from indie rock bands such as Sonic Youth. Lyrics are typically angst-filled and introspective, often addressing themes such as social alienation, self-doubt, abuse, neglect, betrayal, social and emotional isolation, psychological trauma and a desire for freedom.[5][6]"   

( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunge )


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How could I forget Electro-Shock Blues. Great album.
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I'd like to mention another fine Trip Hop album

Moloko  (UK)  -  Do You Like My Tight Sweater  (1995)
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I love the 90s for music, both for the acts that I have listed below that are not in PA, and also for albums by ones in PA (Swans, Art Zoyd, Bj๖rk, H๖yry-kone etc.)

I'll do one album per act even though with some acts I would really like to mention multiple albums, and I am excluding albums included in Prog Archives which I don't think of as Prog. Some of these might be thought of as Prog or Prog associated by some, but none of these are in PA (to my knowledge). Alphabetically listed by act:

Air - Moon Safari
Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children
Broadcast - The Book Lovers
Cardigans - Life
Eels - Electro-Shock Blues
Fishmans - Long Season
The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
PJ Harvey - To Bring You My Love
Mercury Rev - Deserter's Songs
The Necks ‎- Hanging Gardens
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Portishead - Dummy
Pram - Helium
Pulp - This is Hardcore
Stereolab - Dots and Loops

EDIT: That is 16, but I found the Cardigans omission glaring when looking back on the list.

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A woefully underappreciated decade. There's no chance of me listing everything I like even when excluding prog-related artists and listing only one album per artist, but here's an attempt:

1. Goldie – Timeless
2. Lush – Spooky
3. DJ Shadow – Endtroducing
4. Boards Of Canada – Music Has The Right To Children
5. Cocteau Twins – Four-Calendar Caf้
6. Slowdive – Pygmalion
7. Failure – Fantastic Planet
8. Drop Nineteens – Mayfield
9. Art Of Noise – The Seduction Of Claude Debussy
10. Underworld – Second Toughest In The Infants
11. Eels – Beautiful Freak
12. Seefeel – Quique
13. Avishai Cohen – Adama
14. Derek Bailey – Guitar, Drums & Bass
15. Simon H. Fell – L’Huile Sur Le Feu
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

What does PA have against the word o-m-s-l-a-g? Here it just means cover art.


My guess is the last 4 letters when said in English


I had to look it up to find out that it doesn't always refer to a byproduct of iron ore.

I always found that kind of censorship strange. Even with those *'s, you can still figure out what it is supposed to say anyway.
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Originally posted by Hiram Hiram wrote:


Autopsy - Mental Funeral (just listened to it last night actually)
Darkthrone - Soulside Journey, A Blaze in the Northern Sky, Under a Funeral Moon, Transilvanian Hunger
Morbid Angel - Blessed Are the Sick, Covenant
Entombed - Left Hand Path, Clandestine
Amorphis - Karelian Isthmus, Tales form the Thousand Lakes
Sentenced - Shadows of the Past, North from Here
Convulse - World Without God
Goatlord - Reflections of the Solstice
Immortal - Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism, Pure Holocaust, Battles in the North

Rather classic stuff, and for a reason.

Not death/black, but I'll also have to mention:

Skepticism - Stormcrowfleet, Lead and Aether
Unholy - From the Shadows, Second Ring of Power
Eyehategod - In the Name of Suffering, Take as Needed for Pain, Dopesick
Thanks! quite the fan of the Autopsy, Convulse and Morbid Angel albums and I've heard most of the Darkthrone, Entombed and Immortal albums.

Look forward to check out those I'm unfamilar with. Starting with Stormcrowfleet, as I have the feeling I need some classic funeral doom from Finland in my life.
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About the 90's from the book Rock Music Styles : a history. Fith Edition  (McGraw Hill, 2008) by musicologist Katherine Charlton:

"Grunge Rock
The roots of grunge rock can be found in the music and image of an important and influential "no wave" band from New York, Sonic Youth. They experimented with unusual guitar tunings and sound effects created by prepared instruments.
...............
One of the first Seattle bands to gain a strong following was Soundgarden, which recorded its first EP, Screaming Life, in 1987. The term grunge represented the loud crunch of their typical guitar sound. Many of the grunge bands (many of which do not like the title) recorded under the Sub Pop record label, although Soundgarden eventually moved to A&M." (p. 337)


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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Hiram Hiram wrote:

+ loads of early 90s death and black metal albums
I never really "warmed up" to 1990's black metal. I have a hard time listenting to most mid-to late 90's metal in general. Death Metal largely became generic, lifeless and sterile while in the opposite corner most Black Metal felt like the "dogme95 film" version of metal. An understandable reaction perhaps. Sort of like punk to prog and grunge to hair metal. But all it's restricting rules and (as a result of that) their sound esthetics had little appeal to me. But I'm into plenty of early 1990's death metal and the sort of too late to the party, aggressive death/thrash bands (such as Morbid Saint, Sadus, Demolition Hammer, Аспид [Aspid], Hellwitch, Ripping Corpse, Epidemic...) of the same era.

Along with the Carcass-album on my list I also considered Bolt Thrower - The IVth Crusade and a 1996 BM-exception: Kvist - For kunsten maa vi evig vike - which I find thick in atmosphere and full of beauty + it sounds more than decent enough.

-anyway; I would be interested in learning some of your fave 90's death and black metal albums.

Autopsy - Mental Funeral (just listened to it last night actually)
Darkthrone - Soulside Journey, A Blaze in the Northern Sky, Under a Funeral Moon, Transilvanian Hunger
Morbid Angel - Blessed Are the Sick, Covenant
Entombed - Left Hand Path, Clandestine
Amorphis - Karelian Isthmus, Tales form the Thousand Lakes
Sentenced - Shadows of the Past, North from Here
Convulse - World Without God
Goatlord - Reflections of the Solstice
Immortal - Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism, Pure Holocaust, Battles in the North 

Rather classic stuff, and for a reason. 

Not death/black, but I'll also have to mention:

Skepticism - Stormcrowfleet, Lead and Aether
Unholy - From the Shadows, Second Ring of Power
Eyehategod - In the Name of Suffering, Take as Needed for Pain, Dopesick
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


a good post this last one of yours, Saperlipopette! Smile
Thank you!
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I figured it had to be as it's the only one you gave a rating as high as a 12

You haven't had very good look at his list, Saperlipopette! Big smile

That's true. It appeared that way at a quick glance - and I knew Let Love Rule was a late 1980's album - which is still correct... and really all I should have commented about. Linda Perhacs - Parallelograms wasn't released until sometime in the 2000's in Europe, but it's a 1970-album nevertheless.


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a good post this last one of yours, Saperlipopette! Smile
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Originally posted by Hiram Hiram wrote:

+ loads of early 90s death and black metal albums
I never really "warmed up" to 1990's black metal. I have a hard time listenting to most mid-to late 90's metal in general. Death Metal largely became generic, lifeless and sterile while in the opposite corner most Black Metal felt like the "dogme95 film" version of metal. An understandable reaction perhaps. Sort of like punk to prog and grunge to hair metal. But all it's restricting rules and (as a result of that) their sound esthetics had little appeal to me. But I'm into plenty of early 1990's death metal and the sort of too late to the party, aggressive death/thrash bands (such as Morbid Saint, Sadus, Demolition Hammer, Аспид [Aspid], Hellwitch, Ripping Corpse, Epidemic...) of the same era.

Along with the Carcass-album on my list I also considered Bolt Thrower - The IVth Crusade and a 1996 BM-exception: Kvist - For kunsten maa vi evig vike - which I find thick in atmosphere and full of beauty + it sounds more than decent enough.

-anyway; I would be interested in learning some of your fave 90's death and black metal albums.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I figured it had to be as it's the only one you gave a rating as high as a 12

You haven't had very good look at his list, Saperlipopette! Big smile



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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Nirvana - In Utero
nice to see this one listed by you as well
Indeed. I think I prefer it to Nevermind. It is less streamlined and a bit more edgy.

So do I, and agree.


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

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Nirvana - In Utero

nice to see this one listed by you as well


Indeed. I think I prefer it to Nevermind. It is less streamlined and a bit more edgy.
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12        Lenny Kravitz – Let Love Rule


You're favorite non-prog album for this whole decade was released in September 1989:)


just because it's first listed on my list doesn't mean it's my fave
I figured it had to be as it's the only one you gave a rating as high as a 12
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

12        Lenny Kravitz – Let Love Rule


You're favorite non-prog album for this whole decade was released in September 1989:)


just because it's first listed on my list doesn't mean it's my fave

And TBH, in Continental Europe, Let Love Rule had its commercial life in 1990.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Alice In Chains - Dirt
You can suprise me a bit with this one, but it confirms me in liking it, as this album has been rather critically received among "feinschmeckers".

I like plenty of non-gourmet music, punk, blues, grunge amongst the more esoteric

I've noticed, but I meant that particularly this album hasn't been so well received  among Metal "feinschmeckers" - more like Jar of Flies.


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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Nirvana - In Utero

nice to see this one listed by you as well
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