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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45775 |
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weird, first time I checked the site, Bruford and Collins were not there. WTF?!
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12450 |
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Ummm, Bruford is on the list.
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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Bruford's exclusion makes no sense at all..!
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45775 |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15175 |
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But Bruford is there, isn't he?
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dwill123 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 19 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4460 |
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It's an ok list (No Bruford???). I also think that Billy Cobham, Lenny White and Chester Thompson should be somewhere on that list (but I understand the fear of the jazz drummer label).
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15175 |
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Moerlen, Liebezeit, Vander belong on such a list. Andy Ward (Camel) was amazing in his heyday.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45775 |
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no Bill Bruford
![]() even Phil Collins deserves to be in such a list for his drumming in Genesis and Brand X Christian Vander, the main reason I gave Magma a chance. whoever is drumming on Can's Tago Mago (Jaki Liebezeit, just looked it up ![]() Edited by Cristi - February 10 2021 at 03:22 |
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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Generally a good list. I would have excluded Nick Mason. Nothing against the guy, and I love Floyd, but there are a couple of better drummers...
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Online Points: 29591 |
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Too many great drummers to fit on a 12 man list. Alan White at his best (Relayer through to Drama) was an insanely good drummer as was Brian Davison of The Nice. Keith Moon could play anything he wanted to when he was anywhere near sober. Jon Hiseman (as mentioned) was a fantastic drummer. Jurgen Rosenthal (Eloy) deserves a mention as does Stewart Copeland for his very brief time in Curved Air.
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Awesoreno ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 07 2019 Location: Culver City, CA Status: Offline Points: 3080 |
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I would love to see more lists that include any Zappa drummer from 1970 onward, as they tend to blow many others out of the water.
Vinnie Colaiuta is my favorite drummer right now. I like them Jazzers.
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The Anders ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 02 2019 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3535 |
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Drum solos usually bore me, unless there is a poetry to them. If it is just showing off, it leaves me cold. We often have to move into the jazzier area to find drummers who can play solos I actually like. For instance Alex Riel: |
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BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
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Only three or four on the list would have made my top twelve: Collins, Bruford, Giles and perhaps Palmer. I would have included these (in alphabetic order): Christian Burchard Guy Evans Jon Hiseman Jaki Liebezeit Andy McCulloch Pierre Moerlen Mani Neumeier Pip Pyle Christian Vander My current favourite is Christian Burchard.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18660 |
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I concur it's a "safe" list. Still nice to see Marco on it. Otherwise, we could have guessed every drummer, and correctly.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18660 |
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I, too, maintain Barriemore was Tull's best drummer. And he did go on to drum for Yngwie!
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13232 |
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I'll go with the guy who drummed on Thick as a Brick, A Passion Play, Minstrel in the Gallery and Songs From the Woods.
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17973 |
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A rather traditional list of prog drummers by LouderSound, hence why Portnoy and Mangini are listed. Super pleased to see Minnemann listed. As well Gavin is being noticed more and more, which is nice too...Gavin is so insanely musical its cra-cra.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37430 |
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If you want to argue that there are not a lot of hard rock and metal types in the list, then I'm ready to learn. I never said or implied those were (I didn't say all and I said hard rock and metal). I meant that it lists many "louder bands" with drummers who played in hard rock and metal bands, or made hard rock and metal music. I think they are going for drummers who play harder or flashier rather than the more subtle generally, but perhaps I'm wrong (Mason is not a flashy drummer). Of course I'm playing on the word louder for some humour (my humour rarely works), and that was what I most going for. A reason why one of my brothers doesn't like King Crimson is because he finds it too hard rock (of course it depends on the piece). I mentioned jazz, and Bruford does come from that jazz tradition as they note, but an album like King Crimson's Red is definitely on the hard rock side (King Crimson might well be called a "louder" band by many even if it isn't always). Interestingly, they choose a jazz performance from Bruford as the video to highlight him (so my earlier jazz drummer comment does not seem true based on my first look). Neil Peart, the number one, played hard rock, influenced metal drummers, and Rush influenced progressive metal. Mike Portnoy, progressive metal. Gavin Harrison, they reference In Absentia and I would call that hard alternative rock with metal qualities. Marco Minneman has a hard rock/ metal pedigree in bands he has worked with. Danny Carey of Tool, involved in metal. Pat Mastelotto has been pretty varied, but the video they post sounds metal influenced to me. Mike Mangini, involved in Prog Metal. They cover quite a few post-classic era ones, and there especially I do seem to see a hard rock or metal bias (heavy prog) in terms of the kinds of projects that the drummers have worked in. Frankly, I would have stuck with the classic era ones. For more soft Prog drummers playing really quiet music see softersound.com And here's some heavy duty Pink Floyd for you: Edited by Logan - February 09 2021 at 16:07 |
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12450 |
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Edited by Grumpyprogfan - February 09 2021 at 15:16 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37430 |
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Tatsua Yoshida is great.
By the way, I guess being LouderSound, it favours louder bands. I just notice a lot of hard rock and metal types in the list and I suspect that the writer is not a big fan of the more Avant Prog ones. Not surprising to focus on the more mainstream ones when doing “greats” generally. Edited by Logan - February 09 2021 at 15:16 |
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