Who is the most underrated prog rock guitarist?

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Posted: January 11 2021 at 23:12

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Terje Rypdal

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Posted: January 11 2021 at 19:23

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Siegi Schwarb (Embyro guitarist on their best LP, Rocksession with Mal Waldron on the electric piano)

Larry Coryell.....I know, I know, not so underrated but I'm talking about the Coryell with the Chico Hamilton Quintet and the mid-60s Gary Burton bands - the guy brought fire to those sessions.

Peter Banks.....my heart goes out for this guy, man; maybe not the most technically proficient but those Wes Montgomery licks he brought to those early Yesyears are priceless.

Yep, Steve Howe practically stole Pete Banks' idea of incorporating jazz guitar into Yes. Steve did it on perpetual change and yours is no disgrace but Pete did it first. He actually became more technically proficient later imo although the early stuff was still very good. Listen to his playing on that first Flash album for example. Yes, he's very underrated. Good call.

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Posted: January 11 2021 at 19:12

Terje Rypdal

Siegi Schwarb (Embyro guitarist on their best LP, Rocksession with Mal Waldron on the electric piano)

Larry Coryell.....I know, I know, not so underrated but I'm talking about the Coryell with the Chico Hamilton Quintet and the mid-60s Gary Burton bands - the guy brought fire to those sessions.

Peter Banks.....my heart goes out for this guy, man; maybe not the most technically proficient but those Wes Montgomery licks he brought to those early Yesyears are priceless.

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Posted: January 11 2021 at 03:13

ALAN MORSE

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Posted: January 11 2021 at 00:21

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^Ok, but does anyone really think Chick Corea is underrated? I suppose Herbie Hancock and Joe Zawinul are underrated too. Yes, I know they aren't guitarists but just thought I would mention that. It can be like a domino thing where if one guy is then a whole bunch of others are too.

To clarify, I was saying that Chick should be on here as a solo artist. He is anything but underrated. Another reason why he should be on here. His progressive output is revered, both in and out of RTF (and Elektric Band I suppose).

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Posted: January 10 2021 at 14:37

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^I've actually heard you(or one of you guys)mention him before. What band did he play with? Or does he play with?

Embryo, Aera (on their first live album only), together with Roland Schaeffer of Guru Guru as RoRo, with the trio Orientación, solo albums and more.

With Embryo:

With Aera:

With RoRo:

With Orientación:

From his first solo album:

He is also one of the few European virtuosos on the oud (a fretless Arabian lute):

He also made a lot of film music and, together with his Korean wife Grace Yoon, took part in many musical radio plays.

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Posted: January 10 2021 at 14:07

^I've actually heard you(or one of you guys)mention him before. What band did he play with? Or does he play with?

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Posted: January 10 2021 at 13:58

I still stick to saying Roman Bunka is the most underrated guitar player. He is technically excellent and has a unique style, yet no-one but Jean and me ever mentions him.

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Posted: January 10 2021 at 13:41

^Ok, but does anyone really think Chick Corea is underrated? I suppose Herbie Hancock and Joe Zawinul are underrated too. Yes, I know they aren't guitarists but just thought I would mention that. It can be like a domino thing where if one guy is then a whole bunch of others are too.

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Posted: January 10 2021 at 13:23

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All the more reason Chick should have his own entry here. His mid-70s and early 80s output certainly qualifies him, moreso than Elektric Band.

But we're talking guitarists. I love Allan Holdsworth, who is only maybe slightly underrated here (his solo output certainly is), but is certainly less well-known than he should be to the masses.

Holdsworth is pretty well known and so I wouldn't call him underrated. Outside of prog and fusion circles maybe but that would mean 99.5 percent of those who are discussed here are underrated. The guy I mentioned earlier, Scott McGill, is way more underrated. Although most on here might not know him he has played with McGill, Manring, Stevens(with Michael Manring and Vic Stevens)and also Finneaus Gauge(which featured echolyn keyboardist Chris Buzby)as well as with Guy Leblanc(Nathan Mahl). Scott is pretty much the textbook definition of an underrated guitarist. He's technically almost as good(actually maybe as good)as Holdsworth. He also has several instructional videos on youtube. I'm pretty sure he teaches guitar also.

Fair. I brought him up because I was always so surprised when people I played jazz with in college, including guitarists, had never heard of him.

I also though I should mention SOMETHING about guitarists rather than just plug Chick Corea.

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Posted: January 10 2021 at 11:40

Many choices here may be underrated as ROCK guitarists but as prog guitarists , really not! Oldfield, Barre, Hackett, Gilmour, Howe, Holdsworth, May, Rothery, Blackmore, etc...and all the classic PROG axemen (aka Tier 1) are not UNDERRATED at all. In fact, they are mentioned in all ROCK lists, even Rolling Stoned (sic!)

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Posted: January 10 2021 at 11:32

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Mike Oldfield?

valid suggestion for sure. Oldfield has created his own style with one of the most used instruments in existence. No mean achievement. Who else can we truly say has done that?

Brian May springs to mind. Others?

I doubt Oldfield could be a candidate for "most underrated..." The guy's world famous. There are four or five sequels to Tubular Bells. He has numerous compilations and live videos, including the amazing Live at Montreux 1981 video.

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Posted: January 10 2021 at 09:51

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All the more reason Chick should have his own entry here. His mid-70s and early 80s output certainly qualifies him, moreso than Elektric Band.

But we're talking guitarists. I love Allan Holdsworth, who is only maybe slightly underrated here (his solo output certainly is), but is certainly less well-known than he should be to the masses.

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Posted: January 10 2021 at 07:36

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^Interesting mention for sure, I would add Roine Stolt to the bulk, whose name I think hasn't come up yet.

Yes, Roine Stolt is a great guitarist, and deserves more credit than he usually gets. Same goes for Martin Barre.

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Posted: January 10 2021 at 02:31

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Mike Oldfield?

valid suggestion for sure. Oldfield has created his own style with one of the most used instruments in existence. No mean achievement. Who else can we truly say has done that?

Brian May springs to mind. Others?

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Posted: January 10 2021 at 00:35

Ron Jarzombek.

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Posted: January 09 2021 at 22:44

All the more reason Chick should have his own entry here. His mid-70s and early 80s output certainly qualifies him, moreso than Elektric Band.

But we're talking guitarists. I love Allan Holdsworth, who is only maybe slightly underrated here (his solo output certainly is), but is certainly less well-known than he should be to the masses.

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Posted: January 09 2021 at 20:32

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Yes. Their first self-titled album sounds quite similar to Barbara Dennerlein's album "Hot Stuff".

I guess Chick Correa being part of RTF is considered relevant. It shouldn't be, but it is.

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Posted: January 09 2021 at 19:10

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Here another smoking track of her featuring Watkins:

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In case people don't know, Mitch and Ronnie Burrage (drums) are Americans. Both had a couple albums released on the German jazz label Enja.

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The jazz-rock/fusion team did however not agree with us.

That does surprise me, because the Chick Corea Elektric Band are in the Archives under JR/F and a lot of CCEB sounds like contemporary jazz, which is what I assume the PA team considers Dennerlein.

Yes. Their first self-titled album sounds quite similar to Barbara Dennerlein's album "Hot Stuff".

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