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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2005 at 05:45

Originally posted by GFoyle GFoyle wrote:



Jumping around and being energetic on the stage is one approach of
making a good live show and I understand that DT's music is not perhaps
the most suited for it. Nobody stops DT members interacting with the
audiance between songs though... I think there are multiple way of being
a good live act, I just didn't DT was any of them.

Then you should not go to a King Crimson show.

Originally posted by GFoyle GFoyle wrote:



I never said that I didn't like their music, I didn't pay good money to sit
there and listen to them almost three hours to just bash them. Just the
damn solo's annoy me and especially in a live show they are very
apparent. I WAS expecting that though, it is just "funny" that is all.

Well, then DON'T GO THERE because DT is all about solos and complex song structures. People go to these shows because of these aspects. Surely DT aren't JUST that - but it's their main "asset".

Originally posted by GFoyle GFoyle wrote:



btw. guitar solos IMO do not make music complex

 true ... fortunately DT aren't just about guitar solos. The point is that they're all virtuosos on their instruments, and they all get their spots.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2005 at 05:40
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Well are you saying that it is a bad thing that Petrucci
is allowed to play guitar solos in the songs? I mean almost every prog band
got guitar solos and i dont think petrucci uses longer time on them
compared to other bands...


Most prog bands have instrumental passages, I don't think most prog bands
have guitar solos at least not in that extent.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2005 at 05:37
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GFoyle: Their music is quite complex and
difficult to play. I'm a musician and I know how difficult it is to stand on
stage and jump around and interact with the audience even when you
play SIMPLE songs. I agree that they're a bit "stiff" ... I really like Zappa in
that regard. They interacted much with the audience and at the same time
played very complex music.


Please don't call them w**kers just because they play complex stuff.
They do that, most of their fans like it, and if YOU don't like music like
that then do yourself a favor and DON'T GO THERE. Or at least don't
expect it to be different and then complain about it afterwards.

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Jumping around and being energetic on the stage is one approach of
making a good live show and I understand that DT's music is not perhaps
the most suited for it. Nobody stops DT members interacting with the
audiance between songs though... I think there are multiple way of being
a good live act, I just didn't DT was any of them.

I never said that I didn't like their music, I didn't pay good money to sit
there and listen to them almost three hours to just bash them. Just the
damn solo's annoy me and especially in a live show they are very
apparent. I WAS expecting that though, it is just "funny" that is all.

btw. guitar solos IMO do not make music complex
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2005 at 05:35
Well are you saying that it is a bad thing that Petrucci is allowed to play guitar solos in the songs? I mean almost every prog band got guitar solos and i dont think petrucci uses longer time on them compared to other bands...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2005 at 05:23

GFoyle: Their music is quite complex and difficult to play. I'm a musician and I know how difficult it is to stand on stage and jump around and interact with the audience even when you play SIMPLE songs. I agree that they're a bit "stiff" ... I really like Zappa in that regard. They interacted much with the audience and at the same time played very complex music.

Please don't call them w**kers just because they play complex stuff. They do that, most of their fans like it, and if YOU don't like music like that then do yourself a favor and DON'T GO THERE. Or at least don't expect it to be different and then complain about it afterwards.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2005 at 05:14
I was there too and I wasn't that impressed. They played well and a lot of
good songs (song Octavarium in full was a big plus) but as a live act they
are boring as hell. LaBrie's "moves" were like blast from the past,
reminded me of somebody like Jon Bon Jovi, LOL. How Petrucci has been
able to squeeze in those instrument-masturbation solos in 95% of their
songs in just amazing... in a bad way. They also had this "big band"
syndrome that they didn't really interact with the audience much at all
and felt to me very "distant". Maybe I am comparing it to too much to the
great gig by OPETH saturday...

Didn't really change my opinion of the band at all, still okay but not great.
7/10.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2005 at 05:11

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

What's so brilliant about the ending of Octavarium? Both Scenes and 6DOIT disc 2 have MUCH better endings.

yea well 6doit got a better ending but i think it is really one of the best...if they only had kept the flute outro part ...But i just love symphonic stuff with a orchestra, cant help it



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2005 at 05:10
What's so brilliant about the ending of Octavarium? Both Scenes and 6DOIT disc 2 have MUCH better endings.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2005 at 05:07
Octavarium is a great song...although the intro is pretty skippable i like the approach of a epic track that manages to stay in the "softer" area and even incorporates the great symphonic ending...the only really awfull thing is that they cut out the really excellent flute ending wich IMO was MUCH better
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2005 at 05:01
Octavarium is not a bad album at all ... but IMO the title track is 50% filler. They could have made a smashing 10 to 12 minute track from the material.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2005 at 04:25
I just saw DT yesterday in Helsinki. They were amazing!! I can't believe how good they were. LaBrie has really been working on his voice he sounded like a totally different singer. He hit all the high notes and he was really energetic. The whole band was great! And DT aren't loosing their touch. They're still making a lot of good songs, the newest album isn't as good as the previous albums as a whole, but it has a couple of really great songs. In fact Octavarium is imo their best song. Trapped inside this octavarium is mindblowing live!! I love this band.
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