Just saw the Cruise to the Edge line up...WOW! - Progressive Rock Music Forum

BTW despite my cruise comment I'm pretty sure it would be the best cruise I've never been on. Hanging out with fellow fans and possibly meeting the artists would be a lot of fun, and you could ru uu uun, run not too far awaaaay. You wouldn't get away. Tongue

Edited by Slartibartfast - December 29 2018 at 12:08

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

I don't know why some people get this upset and feel that they get a free pass sort of by default to insult people that are more nostalgic than themselves. I mean I have no interest in this cruise whatsoever (I like Soft Machine and PFM for who they were ca. 45 years ago and thats about it). But I am too a nostalgic and sentimental person - although not for "retro prog". I long for a lot of things of the past - vintage music whether from 1930's, 1960's or 1970's brings good feelings (vibes or whatever I should call it) also for its "distinct sound" alone and I find it more rewarding digging backwords discovering overlooked stuff of the past rather than in the present. So what? I'm more interested in jazz from 1964 rather than 2018 but I still don't know anyone who listens to more far out, experiemental, free or unheard music from all over the world than myself.

Although I'm not particularly old I obviously sound like an old fart I know, but old farts know more than inexperienced kids anyway. Robert Crumb is an old fart and he would hate a lot of things I love. But I can understand where he is coming from, so I'll leave the hateful rant towards "modern times" to him:

From the opening of The Litany of Hate

...‘I’m such a negative person, and always have been. Was I born that way? I don’t know. I am constantly disgusted by reality, horrified and afraid. I cling desperately to the few things that give me some solace, that make me feel good.

I hate most of humanity. Though I might be very fond of particular individuals, humanity in general fills me with contempt and despair. I hate most of what passes for civilization. I hate the modern world. For one thing there are just too Goddamn many people. I hate the hordes, the crowds in their vast cities, with all their hateful vehicles, their noise and their constant meaningless comings and goings. I hate cars. I hate modern architecture. Every building built after 1955 should be torn down!

I despise modern music. Words cannot express how much it gets on my nerves – the false, pretentious, smug assertiveness of it. I hate business, having to deal with money. Money is one of the most hateful inventions of the human race. I hate the commodity culture, in which everything is bought and sold. No stone is left unturned. I hate the mass media, and how passively people suck up to it...

-all this mostly rings true to me, but of course I wouldn't go back to a time where women were treated like sh*t, and I wouldn't have been given the opportunities that allowed me to become who-and where I am (plus I would take a bath once a week instead of every day). But still... I get the nostalgia and sentimentality for bygone times because I am such a person myself.

Edited by Saperlipopette! - December 29 2018 at 10:07

Yeah but you have to take a cruise. Cry

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

micky wrote:

hahah ^ more than than that those that would even if they could to see a bunch of has beens and sleep inducing 'prog' bands with tbe bonus sh*tty food, no good ports of call or overpriced water downed booze.. all served by a bunch of kids more inclined to smoke dope and have sex with each other than provide good service to the paying customers.... and with the added bonus of catching fire,breaking down and living on ketchup packets, or simply induring the plague and sh*tting your life away because some a****le didn't think to stay home when very sick.

Overdosed on the cruise ketchup,did you Kantner.??

How do you stay home, if you get sick on a cruise ??

Shake & bake.

moshkito wrote:

wiz_d_kidd wrote:

Sounds like a lot of sour grapes!

Nah ... more like the end of "progressive music". When the children don't care enough, and the bands listed have no teenagers screaming for attention, you know that it's time has come.

How many teenagers do you know, who can drop several grand on airfare and a cruise.??

Shake & bake.

Sounds like a lot of sour grapes!

^I still stomp on ketchup packets whenever I get a chance.

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I´d like to see the 2 H´s Hackett and Haken but the others bore the sh*t out of me.

Such a pretentious comment... It looks like you haven't seen any of them live before. Go and check Riverside for example, I've seen them twice and I was really impressed.

Edited by Marcin - October 28 2018 at 17:10

I´d like to see the 2 H´s Hackett and Haken but the others bore the sh*t out of me.