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Points: 3597 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2004 at 04:15
 Zheul music created by the frenchies of Magma is a particuar form of fusion jazz including vocals, innovative elements of composition borrowed from classical contemporary music. A kind of Avant-garde jazz with unlimited possibilities of orchestration.

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Points: 340 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2004 at 14:01
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

A thread launched by a french woman for french people only. 

Unfortunately yes

But the reason of this thread is MAX....

He suggested me to work on Zeuhl and as I am not alone

Maybe we have to cancel all Zeuhl music here and to swich to a french (or european) site

I hope no !

Pls wake up american people (and some european members...)
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Points: 8138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2004 at 13:35

A thread launched by a french woman for french people only. 

Zeuhl : a really unique kind of music that blends elements of hard-bop (John Coltrane), opera, rock, some dissonance and a language understandable only by them (kobaïa), plus judging by their album artworks [I never got into their lyrics] and their album titles [Mekanikh destruktiw kommandoh], the musical world they created seems very gloomy .  My top three Magma albums are : MDK, Kohntarkosz, 1001 ° centigrades but I admit I am not very fond of their music and of zeuhl in general.
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Points: 340 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2004 at 04:51

bon laisse béton, c'est vraiment sans espoirs

NB : Christian VANDER a donné de très nombreuses définitions différentes qu'il serait inutile pour le moment d'évoquer ici.

J'en ai même une qu'il m'a donné de visu lors d'une discussion que j'ai eu avec lui il y a bien longtemps.

Toujours est-il que ces définitions s'adressent plus à MAGMA qu'au mouvement Zeuhl en général et il me semble difficile dans l'état actuel des choses qu'elles correspondent par exemple à RUINS, DÜN ou autres avatars.

 

Je sens poindre une immense fatigue
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Points: 3597 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2004 at 04:19

je crois qu'il n'y a pas de meilleur définition que celle de l'intéréssé lui même, non?
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Points: 340 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2004 at 03:57

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Check this page for the official definition http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/8366/MAGMA-ARTICL ES-option-Jan-1988.html

yessssssss I know it

but pleeeeeease, forget what it is said about Zeuhl by professionnals and official definitions (mainly wrong or inexact for me)

It is your OWN definition which represents an interrest for me and I hope the work of MAX. Think by yourself

Is it possible ????
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Check this page for the official definition http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/8366/MAGMA-ARTICL ES-option-Jan-1988.html

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Points: 340 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2004 at 02:28

I'm curious, always curious...

For those (I hope not only french people) who know MAGMA, ESKATON, WEIDORJE, DÜN, and so many others :

"What is your definition for ZEUHL MUSIC"

(I think it is the real first step to work on this category of music)

 

For me who have no words for the moment I only suggest this picture of the "Old Master Vander" (my old portly gentleman with a little hair but always his wonderfull eyes)
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