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Vibrationbaby
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
Posted: August 05 2004 at 18:06 |
I am a vynil junkie and hate the over produced sound of CDs.
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Velvetclown
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 8548 |
Posted: August 04 2004 at 14:29 |
Does lifting beer cans count ?????????????????????
Hmm.............I guess not |
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Dan Bobrowski
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 02 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5243 |
Posted: August 04 2004 at 00:37 |
The question is... What would make a CD buyer (You) more inclined to buy a CD? |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19535 |
Posted: August 03 2004 at 22:41 |
Probably I'm a purist and like to have the album exactly as it was released by the authors, I don't want to listen what a producer or a label searching for money decide is better to add. I don't care for the lenght if a band releases an album with 80 minutes of music it's better (specially if they don't sacrifice quality for quantity as Jim said, but if the band releases an album with certain songs, I want to listen it that way. If a band has many B sides or unreleased versions, there's always the chance to release a special album after the band is dead so we can have some new stuff after we believed we would never hear something new. Iván Edited by ivan_2068 |
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AngelRat
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 14 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 1014 |
Posted: August 03 2004 at 16:13 |
Lower prices, better sound quality. Muchos older prog albums rereleased on cd sound sh*t. A simple remastering job will do, but seemingly most labels are reluctant to do that, or they do when you've already bought the damn cd out of despair. I bought KC's 'Islands' twice, the old version sounds excruciatingly bad, the remaster sounds 300 times better.
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: August 03 2004 at 14:41 |
Personally, I love "bonus tracks", they often offer an interesting insight into the history of the tracks on the albums. The Caravan and Yes bonus tracks for example are excellent. In Caravan' case, on the "New Symphonia" album, they were used to recreate the concert in full. You can always use the stop, skip or programme buttons on the CD player if you don't want to hear them! I thought the way the Marillion remasters had the exta tracks on a separate CD was a great idea. The original albums were left untouched on one CD for the purists, with a plethora of extras for folks like me on the other! |
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Joren
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Posted: August 03 2004 at 09:21 |
I don't care if an album is short. Gentle Giant - Three Friends was worth all the money I paid for it!
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: August 03 2004 at 06:52 |
A common gripe, this one
The CD format can carry approx 80 minutes of music, but when you have 1970's albums being re-released on CD, they are rarely more than 45 minutes long, so unless a huge amount of unreleased material (of decent quality, one would hope) can be unearthed, we end up buying a half full CD. Mind you, on the other side of the coin, many new bands try to fill as much of the CD as possible, resulting in quantity, rather than quality(no names, no pack drill, no mention of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers). I always prefer quality to quantity. |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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theis the one
Forum Groupie Joined: June 25 2004 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 61 |
Posted: August 03 2004 at 05:25 |
I just buy'd an album, where there only was 45 min. of music, thats not enough when there can be, up to 90. min. i had it, there schould be some more music on the albums.
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Theis|Shogun
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: August 03 2004 at 03:25 |
I agree with most of what's been said above, but would also put in my 2 cent's worth regarding packaging.
I dare say we all have the same problem in that if the jewel case is not broken when we buy a brand new CD (at least the CD retaining tabs), then it will be within 2/3 weeks. The manufacture of jewel cases is not rocket science, and it is possible to make them more sturdy. We know this, as the ones we have to buy to replace the original cases are always of a higher quality. If I were of a cynical bent, I would summise that the manufacturers do this deliberately in order to get us to shell out more money...... |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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richardh
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 28107 |
Posted: August 03 2004 at 03:12 |
Extra live tracks sounds good to me.ELP's 'Trilogy' (Sanctuary r/m) has a previously unreleased live version of 'Hoedown'.I'd rather have that than some 'making of footage' personally. |
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The Prognaut
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 14 2004 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 1492 |
Posted: August 03 2004 at 01:10 |
Like what happened regarding most of the Fish era albums (e.g. "Script for a Jester's tear", "Clutching at Straws", "Fugazi"...) and some of the Hogarth ones when bonus tracks and extra Cds where added up... remastering could be dangerous yet useless sometimes
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break the circle
reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19535 |
Posted: August 02 2004 at 23:58 |
Can't agree more with you Frenchie, I hate bonus tracks, the albums must be released the way the author designed them. The bonus tracks may be great in some cases (Not ususally IMHO) but those songs change the real format of the album. Imagine somedody adding tracks to The Lamb or In the Court of the Crimson King, those masterpieces are perfect the way they are. Iván |
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asuma
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 23 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 230 |
Posted: August 02 2004 at 19:40 |
i really like dvd footage. of anything.
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*Remember all advice given by Asuma is for entertainment purposes only. Asuma is not a licensed medical doctor, psychologist, or counselor and he does not play one on TV.*
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frenchie
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 30 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2234 |
Posted: August 02 2004 at 18:27 |
Bonus tracks are tolerable (the yes ones were very good) but i think they shouldn't spoil the flow of an album. The worst bonus track ever was putting "Ambuletz" on the uk edition of the mars volta - deloused in the comatorium. the song was good but i think adding a song to a concept album like that ruins the flow of the album. I would much rather see the album as it is.
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The Worthless Recluse
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frenchie
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 30 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2234 |
Posted: August 02 2004 at 18:25 |
I really like Digipaks are a good idea. It was great to see some of the classic Yes albums in lush fold out packaging with lots more pictures. Just makes it seem more special and proffesional.
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The Worthless Recluse
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theis the one
Forum Groupie Joined: June 25 2004 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 61 |
Posted: July 07 2004 at 16:26 |
I vote for Making The Album, Beacuse, so you can see how much they been working to get the Album, ones I seen one by a Danish Band where i get disaapointet Beacuse they just f**ked the album and just wanted to be finish with it there was no love with the cd.
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Theis|Shogun
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Certif1ed
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
Posted: July 07 2004 at 08:07 |
There's a separate discussion for the relative merits of the formats http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=864&am p;PN=1 I for one would be seriously interested in your "waxings", Dick! |
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Dick Heath
Special Collaborator Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12813 |
Posted: July 07 2004 at 07:47 |
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oliverstoned
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 26 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 6308 |
Posted: July 06 2004 at 07:06 |
Altough it's very expensive, the poor sound of cd's is the first problem!!! When you have a real hifi-system with a good CD and a good vynil, and when you compare an original vynil to the latest cd edtion, the cd is unbearable... Moreover, a real good Cd player is very very expensive (at least 15000 dollars, no joking)...
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