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Posted: August 30 2017 at 20:38
verslibre wrote:
YESESIS wrote:
Now that's the kind of PROG that I like!
Jaime wails!
(Did you ever pick up that live CD by Gerard?)
I haven't. I've been buying too much music as it is. A few months ago I bought all of the first 7 studio albums by Caravan plus Paradise Filter. Then I bought all of the first 7 studio albums by Gentle Giant(minus Three Friends). Then I bought the first 4 studio albums by Marillion. And now I'm thinking about buying some stuff by Barclay James Harvest. Oh, and also sometime around when I was buying the Caravan stuff I bought the first 3 studio albums by Soft Machine plus Bundles. I listen to a lot of music on youtube, and then if I really like the artist I will buy a bunch of stuff from them. I did really like that Japanese Wakeman guy and the 3 Japanese Women band. Eventually I'll probably get something from one or both of them. If only I had unlimited money.. then I could buy every album from every prog band ever!
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Posted: August 30 2017 at 20:20
Tom Ozric wrote:
YESESIS wrote:
lostrom wrote:
I'm probably the only one thinking Works Volume 2 is their second best album (the debut being their best).
Yeah I don't agree with any of that lol, but I appreciate your opinion. I haven't listened to Volume 2 in forever(and only once, maybe twice in my whole life). So I'll definitely need to revisit it.. could be something I've been overlooking.
I love their debut album, just isn't my very favorite of theirs.
Years ago, I reviewed Works Vol 2 with 2 stars. Now, I'd almost bump it to a 4.
Sounds like I really should give it another shot then. Must be one of those albums that grows on you.
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Posted: August 30 2017 at 01:10
YESESIS wrote:
lostrom wrote:
I'm probably the only one thinking Works Volume 2 is their second best album (the debut being their best).
Yeah I don't agree with any of that lol, but I appreciate your opinion. I haven't listened to Volume 2 in forever(and only once, maybe twice in my whole life). So I'll definitely need to revisit it.. could be something I've been overlooking.
I love their debut album, just isn't my very favorite of theirs.
Years ago, I reviewed Works Vol 2 with 2 stars. Now, I'd almost bump it to a 4.
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Posted: August 29 2017 at 18:47
lostrom wrote:
I'm probably the only one thinking Works Volume 2 is their second best album (the debut being their best).
Yeah I don't agree with any of that lol, but I appreciate your opinion. I haven't listened to Volume 2 in forever(and only once, maybe twice in my whole life). So I'll definitely need to revisit it.. could be something I've been overlooking.
I love their debut album, just isn't my very favorite of theirs.
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Posted: August 25 2017 at 10:04
I prefer the version of "Romeo and Juliet" that was retitled "Montagues and Capulets," on Keith's Changing States (the solo CD, not the instrumental on Black Moon).
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Posted: August 24 2017 at 20:56
Tom Ozric wrote:
^ It was a respectable 'come-back' I suppose. The titular song is great !! Paper Blood has some Hammond torture that enhances this rocker. Their rendition of Prokofiev's Romeo And Juliet sounds spot-on. Changing States is my favourite - typical ELP Prog. Then Better Days was decent. The rest, kinda nice, but too smooth. I treasure my Hungarian pressing vinyl.
Yeah, it's just about my apreciation of that album too. Just the songs I like, except I didn't really think so much of "Changing States"... perhaps I should give it another listen.
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Posted: August 24 2017 at 20:17
Tom Ozric wrote:
^ Yeah - nothing like a bit of 'goofing around' between all the seriousness / complexity. It really breaks the AMAZING material up and shows that they are humans after all !!!
Yeah.. and those albums just wouldn't be quite the same without them. You know what, those 4 albums are perfect the way they are imo.. don't want any changes whatsoever. Change something else, but not those albums.. I'm sorry.
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Posted: August 24 2017 at 00:17
^ Yeah - nothing like a bit of 'goofing around' between all the seriousness / complexity. It really breaks the AMAZING material up and shows that they are humans after all !!!
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Posted: August 23 2017 at 23:50
Dellinger wrote:
I find it very good too. Though in a more popish way. Actually, it's a relief it doesn't have the common joke songs that would ruin their 70's masterpieces... unfortunatley it doesn't really have the high points either. And I was under the impression that Black Moon is fairly well regarded among prog/ELP fans... better regarded than Love Beach, that's for sure, though it would be very difficult to find someone who actually might consider it a return to form.
I'm guessing you mean stuff like 'Benny the Bouncer', 'Jeremy Bender'.. For me nothing ruins those first 4 studio album masterpieces. Those are certainly far from their best songs but I like them(certainly don't mind them).
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Posted: August 23 2017 at 21:55
^ It was a respectable 'come-back' I suppose. The titular song is great !! Paper Blood has some Hammond torture that enhances this rocker. Their rendition of Prokofiev's Romeo And Juliet sounds spot-on. Changing States is my favourite - typical ELP Prog. Then Better Days was decent. The rest, kinda nice, but too smooth. I treasure my Hungarian pressing vinyl.
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Posted: August 23 2017 at 20:16
Tom Ozric wrote:
I enjoy Black Moon. I can't get my head around the fact it is dissed by so many.
I find it very good too. Though in a more popish way. Actually, it's a relief it doesn't have the common joke songs that would ruin their 70's masterpieces... unfortunatley it doesn't really have the high points either. And I was under the impression that Black Moon is fairly well regarded among prog/ELP fans... better regarded than Love Beach, that's for sure, though it would be very difficult to find someone who actually might consider it a return to form.
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Posted: August 23 2017 at 16:54
richardh wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
My two-bob's worth - Works 1 is mostly a class act. I enjoy the individual facets here that make ELP what they are (were). Lake's singer/songwriter approach is hit and miss - as others have said - Hallowed Be Thy Name is excellent. Carl's side is very interesting. Keith's Piano Concerto is a bit more 'elitist' but a very pretty listen. The group side is classic. The left-over fragments which make up Volume 2, even if a bit of an afterthought, is also good, Carl's work especially. And Love Beach. Well, I like the bulk of it. Had it been presented in a better package (I.e. not a 'honky version of Pablo Cruise', as Hugues so aptly described in his review of the album) I'm certain it wouldn't get (as many) bad raps that it does. Sure, still some cheeze to cut through, but still some fine things to be heard.
Love Beach is still recognisable as ELP and has some good moments. However to go from Brain Salad Surgery to Love Beach in only 5 years is enough to give anyone a headache ( pun intended)
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Posted: August 23 2017 at 16:47
Rednight wrote:
The boys were gods, really. And Love Beach wasn't altogether bad. It's Emerson, Lake, & Powell and onward that I could never warm up to. Should have packed it in after 'Beach.
For me the perfect time for them to pack it in would have been right after BSS.. Possibly Works Vol 1.
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