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Logan
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Joined: April 05 2006
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 11:08 |
I'd rather a PPE Oxford graduate running America than Trump with his economics degree. It's time to make America British again.
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Dean
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Joined: May 13 2007
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 10:56 |
Anyone with a PPE degree should automatically be disqualified from holding a governmental post. Hell, I'm not sure I'd want anyone with that qualification in any position of responsibility or having anything to to with handling money (so that includes anything in retail, even flipping burgers in Micky-Ds). The world always needs bog-cleaners, though even that may be too good for such wastrels.
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Logan
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 10:35 |
Rater than IQ and psychometric testing, perhaps there could be other tests to qualify for the presidency. Just as I would rather like knowledge tests for potential voters (though the biases of such tests could be very problematic and rife for abuse), perhaps for someone to qualify for running for president/ Prime Minister etc. they should pass exams. I would also like some sort of internship/ residency for those interested in the position.
You can't practice medicine without passing your medical exams, earning your degree, going through residency and becoming licensed. Maybe we should expect as much rigour in preparing for politics. If we must have politicians, I think I'd rather the political leader come from the civil servants/ bureaucracy. If we could ensure that good, sane, and knowledgeable people surrounded the President then it wouldn't matter so much. The system of checks and balances is not working well enough.
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Man With Hat
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Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team
Joined: March 12 2005
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 10:34 |
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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CPicard
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Joined: October 03 2008
Location: Là, sui monti.
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 09:45 |
As a voting citizen, I would be glad if the next French president could be mentally stable and not being eaten by his/her own ambition and some weird and dangerous ideas.
On the other hand, Macron looks like he's intelligent and mentally stable, but... who wants to vote for "my perfect cousin"? In fact, if our leaders were surrounded by competent, intelligent, honest people, I wouldn't mind having a president a bit "excentric" (as long as we don't find him making dirty jokes such as the story of the snake and the cowgirl in front of the UNO). When I look back at the Sarkoy era, I see a dishonest, authoritarian and megalomaniac president surrounded by ambitious, opportunistic and treacherous fools, with some of them being clearly incompetent: some laws had been rejected by the Constitutional Court, just because of major defaults in the writing of these said laws! Not to talk about the fact that Sarkozy messed up the French intelligence services when he tried to reorganize it with his usual subtlety... He may have been intelligent, but only used his intelligence to be the Boss, like any good little Wall Street "wolf" could have done it...
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Dean
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 09:23 |
IQ test and psychometric testing are a load of old bollocks and should never be used to assess anyone for anything. I would happily throw both these charlatans on the dung heap of pseudo-scientific bullsh*t along with astrology, alchemy and philosophy. The OT and poll is based upon the premise that Trump and Clinton (or Blair and Thatcher come to that) would fail one or other (or both) of these assessment tests, and I'm not so sure that they would.
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Logan
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Joined: April 05 2006
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 09:04 |
I would like to see the most rational in office, and would like systems that encourage more rationality and far less ignorance in voters. Although it would be rife for terrible abuse, in the past I have favoured tests to determine eligibility to vote.
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Vompatti
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 04:50 |
That would make the election process even more of joke than it is now. Why not just put every willing citizen into such a test and pick the one who scores the highest?
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Blacksword
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Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
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Points: 16130
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Posted: April 03 2017 at 03:40 |
There are those who believe that Donald Trump is not intellectually capable of being president. Some believed that Hillary was too much of a self serving psychopath to do the job.
Should all nominees, or at least those who end up being chosen by their respective parties, then undergo an IQ test and personality profiling to make sure they are not as thick as pig sh*t, and/or dangerously psychotic? It's often said that the beauty of the US system is that technically speaking 'anyone can be president' Recent events have perhaps suggested this is indeed the case. But is this right, or is it stuck up and elitist to believe that only people capable of doing the job should be allowed to do it?
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