Is music only for the rich?

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   Depends on what constitutes as 'rich' ??  
I am far from being 'rich', yet I save hard to afford things I wish to achieve, be it overseas holidays, music (vinyls) and whatever else.  Being single (dammit) and no kids (that I'm aware of, ha ha) helps. I guess I'm in the 'middle class' 

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Tom Ozric Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926	Posted: November 21 2016 at 22:12
	Depends on what constitutes as 'rich' ?? I am far from being 'rich', yet I save hard to afford things I wish to achieve, be it overseas holidays, music (vinyls) and whatever else. Being single (dammit) and no kids (that I'm aware of, ha ha) helps. I guess I'm in the 'middle class'

AFlowerKingCrimson Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18486	Posted: November 21 2016 at 13:28
	This is something I have thought about recently. Although I am college educated I am currently on disability and dirt poor. I have musical instruments but don't play them. As for the collection part that's hard for me because I don't have the extra money to buy a lot of music. I tend to listen to radio in the car(a lot of times not music though)or borrow cds from the library or listen to internet radio. Based on my experience I would say there are ways of getting around it. You can save your money or borrow cds from the library or buy them at the thrift stores(like I have). Also, places like wal mart and other stores often have cds for 5 dollars but most of that stuff isn't prog unfortunately.

SteveG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20616	Posted: November 21 2016 at 12:50
	This guy said no. And probably would have laughed at this question. Edited by SteveG - November 21 2016 at 12:53

octopus-4 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14251	Posted: November 21 2016 at 12:41
	I'm not rich and I think Trump doesn't understand anything about music, so the answer is "no"
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ALotOfBottle Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: February 17 2016 Location: Lublin, Poland Status: Offline Points: 1990	Posted: November 21 2016 at 12:28
	I am interested to see where this topic goes. I can only speak for myself and my family. My dad grew up during Poland's transition from the communist regime to the independent capitalist state. Our family was never very rich, but we always easily made ends meet, no problem. My dad was born into "your typical middle-middle-class urban intelligentsia", as I have. In the early 90's, he became associated with the Polish independent music scene, working with a rather well-known death-metal band Vader and a few magazines among many other things. Anyway, long story short, thanks to some gifts he got from record labels and even bands from all around the world, he was able to build up a pretty big collection of music. We have about 6000 CDs, a couple thousand casettes and a bit less than a thousand vinyl records. It's not like he received everything, though, just to make it clear. Not being an adult yet, I get enough pocket money from my parents to get myself one or two albums every month. Sorry if my post was a bit boring and too personal. To answer your question shortly: No, music is not only for the rich. I can speak from my own experience. It also comes down to financial management and even value system in some way. I do know quite a few collectors, who have a giant collection and a great audio system, some of them also being musicians, who are not rich by any means, even the opposite.
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BrufordFreak Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 25 2008 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 8256	Posted: November 21 2016 at 12:10
	When I think of music before the age of electricity and its innovations in recording and broadcasting, I think of families, communities, celebrations, oral traditions, and, of course, hand-made acoustic instruments. Isn't this music in its purest form? Aren't there still occasions of virtuosity and innovation within community and group dynamics? I don't think anyone here will argue that music performed live, in front of an audience or with a participating community of singers and dancers, provides the most powerful psycho-spiritual experience possible. Is this the direction we should be thinking of returning to? Bands like Aranis and Five-Storey Ensemble and Karda Estra and many in the AltrOck Productions stable seem to be preparing us for such a swelling of promise. But I'm just dreaming out loud here. Sorry. I'll wake up again soon. Is music for the rich only?
	Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/

BrufordFreak Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 25 2008 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 8256	Posted: November 21 2016 at 12:01
	I've been thinking of posting this topic for discussion for quite a while: Is music only for the rich? that is, both the collection of music and the playing/composition/publishing of music? Is music another medium that incites or perpetuates elitism? I had the privilege of being born into an affluent family in an affluent country (the U.S.), but I always thought I was incredibly lucky to have the means to buy music and musical instruments and recording equipment. So, can a "poor" or even "middle class" person hope to either collect music or become a musician? I like the fact that anybody with a smart phone or tablet or computer can stream as much music as they could ever hope to hear, but even this is not quite the "equalizer" that it seems on the surface as every person needs to buy into the consumerist plan of keeping up with the latest (and "greatest") gadget and program in order to keep up with the advances in internet speed and access. Is there anything we can do to bring access to music and musicianship to a broader spectrum of humanity (besides radio, television, and the Internet)?
	Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/